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Hey guys, picked up this trade dollar today and was wondering what you guys would grade it. I was thinking somewhere around VF but I'm still learning so what do you guys think? Thanks everyone CoinAdvocate   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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United States
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Cast counterfeit. Denticles all by themselves prove that.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Look at the schnoz on liberty! And Chinese eyes to boot!  Hi, my name is MikeF and I'm a degenerate coin collector. I also like adventure, big trucks, long walks on the beach and the Kansas City Chiefs.
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Valued Member
United States
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So we're at 27.0g and 37.91mm diameter, how certain are you guys that this is a fake? I am very uncomfortable with bringing it back, but will upon being reasonably convinced...
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Valued Member
United States
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If you are in the So. Cal. area you can stop in at the coin show and some of the grading professionals will be able to say yes or no. The show is this weekend. (June 14th-16th)  In Long Beach that is. Edited by jst1dreamr
06/13/2018 12:34 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Looks real to me. Don't see a problem with the denticles. They appear to be normal for trade dollars, which have denticles of a slightly different design on obverse and reverse.
Edited by SilverDollar2017
06/13/2018 12:39 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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See that ridge running around the lower reverse? That and just the color. Try the tissue test and magnet, this year is the BIGGEST TD faker on the market because there were may made...chop marks? You got two opinions from some top notch dollar folks, better take them and it back. "Don't believe everything you read on the internet just because there is a picture with a quote next to it"
Abraham Lincoln
Edited by Crazyb0
06/13/2018 12:54 am
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Denticles are wrong, portrait is off, and porous fields to boot.  |
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Valued Member
United States
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Well I'm going to the San Jose coin club meeting tomorrow and we'll see what they say...
Edited by CoinAdvocate
06/13/2018 2:16 pm
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United States
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Disregard my previous opinion. I was using an iPad and I had a photo of a real Trade dollar open. I was looking at both your coin and the other one at the same time, and I got them confused. Sorry about that.
This one looks fake. Portrait, denticles, bubbles in fields, and classic Chinese artificial patina.
Edited by SilverDollar2017
06/13/2018 01:17 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I can't get over the liberty's grill. Nose job gone terribly wrong. That thing looks like it could cut glass.
Hi, my name is MikeF and I'm a degenerate coin collector. I also like adventure, big trucks, long walks on the beach and the Kansas City Chiefs.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I've not had a great deal of experience with these, but I'm not convinced it's a fake without further corroborating evidence.  Edited by Coinfrog
06/13/2018 6:44 pm
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If the coin is counterfeit the cast was made from a grade of approx VF35 as the wear on the coin is typical of a VF35, and this grade has not been typical of the Trade Dollar Chinese fakes. I checked the Chinese fake sites and could not find a like example. The coin has mussy details when compared to a genuine example, the Chinese patina, pot marks in the fields, a trough under dollar on the reverse, some strange uneven rims on the reverse, questionable denticles. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then it must be a duck.
Edited by Slider23
06/14/2018 08:50 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The look looked good to me until I noticed that surface dip under the lettering around the reverse near the rim. This one is very deceiving but I think it is one I would pass on.
Edited by IndianGoldEagle
06/14/2018 10:01 am
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