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Picked Up a Nice Vetranio Centenionalis  
 

 
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 Posted 06/13/2018  11:45 pm Show Profile   Check Paul Bulgerin's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add Paul Bulgerin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I won this nice looking coin on eBay tonight, a centenionalis of Vetranio (350 AD). I have a Vetranio AE-3 in my collection, but not a centenionalis.

I also like the reverse design which calls to mind Constantine the Great's vision before the battle of the Milvian Bridge in 312 AD with legend HOC SIGNO VICTOR ERIS, "In this sign you shall conquer".


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 Posted 06/14/2018  12:35 am  Show Profile   Check echizento's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a nice coin Paul, well struck with sharp details.
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 Posted 06/14/2018  02:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting coin! I'm not sure that I have seen a Roman coin with the rev inscription continued in the exergue.
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 Posted 06/14/2018  02:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Exceptional example.

SIS = Sisica Mint?

What officina?
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 Posted 06/14/2018  09:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bob L to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great looking coin, Paul. Congrats. ASIS should indeed be Siscia, Sel. Spence, that's the mint mark in exergue.
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Ah ok thanks. My mistake--I was thinking that the last part of the inscription was in the exergue, but was clearly wrong. Probably should post before drinking my morning coffee.
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I've been checking RIC, Volume VIII, and this one has me a bit puzzled. As I read RIC, all the HOC SIGNO VICTOR ERIS centenionali of Vetranio should have an A in the left reverse field. This coin doesn't appear to have the A.

The rest of the coin matches RIC, Vol. VIII, #292.
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 Posted 06/14/2018  1:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm seeing an A in the left obverse field. Are you sure that you didn't misread?

(I don't have a copy of RIC, so I can't cross-check, unfortunately.)
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From what I make of RIC there should be an A behind Vetranio's bust and also an A in the left reverse field, like this coin:

https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/ae...Default.aspx
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Doing some further research, I checked out all the examples of the Vetranio HOC SIGNO VICTOR ERIS centenionali from Siscia on the Coin Project site, and they all have an "A" on the obverse, behind Vetranio's bust and in the left reverse field.

I'll keep doing some digging on this one.

http://www.coinproject.com/search_e...city=&type=3
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 Posted 06/15/2018  04:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Palouche to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure but it looks as if there is a symbol in the circled area but maybe its just the surface texture of the coin?


btw a nice looking coin

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After showing photos of the coin to members of another ancient coin group, I think the explanation to the missing "A" on the reverse is that the coin was struck with a clogged die that left the "A" missing from the reverse field.
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 Posted 06/15/2018  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent! I have always wanted a coin with that reverse type, but they don't come up often. Lovely portrait of a very scarce emperor too!
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 Posted 06/15/2018  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A very nice and desirable coin.
I managed to obtain the more common examples of the same reverse type in the name of Constantius II.



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