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 Posted 11/19/2019  12:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pepactonius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1505 -- Kingdom of Hungary, 1 denar:



(my last Hungarian denar for this thread)
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Here is a Patard from the Netherlands Duchy of Maastrict dated AD 1505 (with Tournai counterstamp):




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 Posted 11/19/2019  7:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Here is a Patard from the Netherlands Duchy of Maastrict dated AD 1505 (with Tournai counterstamp)


Very cool coin! And reminiscent of the things posted by 1c5d a couple of months ago. I think we will see lots from this part of the world over the next month.
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I think we will see lots from this part of the world over the next month.


"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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 Posted 11/20/2019  05:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petrus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Flanders, Brabant,
Mint Antwerp (lion in the cross)
Philip the Fair 1482-1506
double stuiver(4 groot) 1504
PHS * DEI * GRA * ARCH * AUSTE * DVX * BURG * B * Z *
Philipus dei gratia archidux Austrić dux Burgundić Brabantić etc
Philip, by the grace of God, Archduke of Austria, Duke of Burgundy, Brabant
(Z stands for 'the rest')
OMNIS * SPIRITVS * LAVDET * DOMINV * A * 1504
let every spirit praise the lord, anno 1504
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Van Gelder / Hoc 119-1
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 Posted 11/20/2019  06:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petrus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
sorry, a little bit late, but I just found this in my collection

Emperor Charles V (1500-1555)
Duchy of Brabant
Spanish Netherlands
1506-1555
1 stuiver
minted about 1504-1506
Mint: Antwerp
KAROL.D.G.ROM.IMP.Z: HI SP.REX:
KAROLUS DEI GRATIA ROMANORUM IMPERATOR ETC HISPANIARUM REX
DA: MIHI: VIRTUTEM: CONTRA: HOSTES: TUOS
Da mihi virtutem contra hostes tuos

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Van Gelder / Hoc 192-1
The Witte 680


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 Posted 11/20/2019  3:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've lost out on a couple of bids for Philip the Fair coins recently, but just landed this one, same as petrus' coin though with slight difference in obv legend ending DVX BVRG B (no "Z"). Seller's photos for now.
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1504 -- Margraviate of Brandenburg, 1 groschen:

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Also similar to @petrus post for today:


"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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 Posted 11/20/2019  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice detail!
I'm guessing maybe you've got a patard/stuiver, rather than a double patard/ 2 stuiver?
No polylobe around the crown obverse, and a different kind of cross inside a polylobe reverse, just as in your earlier counterstamped coin.


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Yes sorry @tdz. You are correct that my coin from yesterday is a Patard (from Maastricht).


For today, I have a Groschen from the German Electorate of Brandenberg (Berlin Mint) dated AD 1503:




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 Posted 11/21/2019  06:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice! These Brandenburg coins you and pepactonius have really have attractive designs.

I don't yet have a dated coin for 1503, but this year is in the middle of the date range (1500-1506) for this undated florin or Philipsgulden of the duchy of Brabant, Antwerp mint. There are dated versions of this coin from the last years of the 1400s (I have seen a sale of a 1499 recently), but they are quite rare, and fetch multiples of the price of the undated type. The reverse features an image of the apostle Philip, namesake of the duke.


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1503 -- Margraviate of Brandenburg, 1 groschen:

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1502 -- City of Gottingen, 1 kortling:

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