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Get your feet wet, cheap! Silver Greek obols from Kyzikos; 2,400 years old  

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Have you long admired the high art of ancient Greek coins, but balked at the price tags, or the obvious counterfeits peddled on eBay? Want to get your feet wet with a coin that won't break the banks?

Just in from Kairos in Germany, a lot of over 75 small Greek silvers hailing from Kyzikos, Mysia, in present day Turkey. Of great trade significance, Kyzikos was heavily involved in the Peloponnesian War, where it was allied with Athens. It continued to be of significance throughout the Roman period (where it was called Cyzicus), but was ruined by an earthquake and abandoned in the late middle ages.

Most of the coins in this lot are small silver fractions from early classical Kyzikos, ca. 500-400 BC and encompass a wide range of denominations and varieties. These are small coins, expertly engraved and showing the skills of many different hands over the century in which they were produced. These are among the most popular of the small silver Greek coins.

The basic type:

Forepart of boar left (retrograde K on shoulder), tuna fish behind /
Head of roaring lion within incuse square, (panther head facing above left)

That is one of the nicest, but all coins in the lot have good detail remaining:

I also have issues from a few other cities, as well as both older and newer issues of Kyzikos. I didn't have time to weigh the coins, but the denomonation structure is as follows:

Obol - 0.7g of silver, usually about 8-9mm in diameter.
Hemiobol - 0.35g, usually about 8mm (thinner)
Tetartemorion - 0.16g, usually about 6-7mm

There are also intermediate denominations, such as trihemitetartemorion, trihemiobol, diobol, etc. Various letters and symbols are present on most of the coins, but their meaning is not certain and does not correspond to the denominations.

Rather than pricing put 75+ coins, send me your budget, I'll pick some nice coins, and if we agree, we'll move forward with the sale. As a general guideline:

Obols, hemiobols or similar:
G-F - $5-12
VF+ (like the example) $15-50+

Tetartemorii: (these are more popular for being smaller, thus technically more impressive)
G-F - $8-$15
Vf+ $20+

Archaic types - $30+

Note that while these are common and cheap in lower grades, the price goes up exponentially as the coin reaches mint state; an XF of even a common type will fetch several hundreds or even thousands at auction. First come first served - the early birds get the best coins in their price range!
New Sale! Inexpensive classic Greek silver, over 2,400 years old!
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I love wet feet. Sending PM now.
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I'll put this out there in case anyone is interested

Troas, Dardanos
AR (silver) 1/8 obol (Hemitetartemorion)
5mm, 0.07g (no really!)
5th century BC
Obv: Forepart of horse
Rev: Rooster


Dardanos (Dardanus) was situated on the northwestern coast of Turkey, and was a semi-major trading port. Most of its early coins feature a rooster, which was the city symbol.

In the 6th and most of the 5th centuries BC, there was no copper in the Greek economy; only gold and silver. Thus, the only way to make small change was to make small coins. The Hemitetartemorion was the smallest denomination made at this time; one of the smallest and lightest coins ever made.

It is not known how many were originally made, but survival rates are very low. In fact, this coin appears to be the only one of its kind in major auction archives; it is not published. I was only able to find one comparable coin of the same type, but a regular tetartemorion:
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