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1985P-LC--Struct through die cap obverse ? and struct through reverse

 
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 Posted 07/11/2018  5:50 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add 11997755 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I haven't found a struct through a die cap but maybe this is one. What's neat is it is struct through something on the reverse as well. Am I correct with my attribution ? Thanks for looking.





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 Posted 07/11/2018  5:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting coin. (Reverse is a lamination problem.) - guess that can't be, it's a zincoln.

Oh yeah, just noticed small die cracks in both corners of the Memorial base. Nice find!
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 Posted 07/11/2018  6:35 pm  Show Profile   Check Adam_E's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It does look like it was struck through a late stage die cap, it's nice that the date is readable, definitely a plus in terms of value.

I agree with Mark's conclusion that the reverse has a lamination flaw, it probably wont have a significant effect on the coin's value one way or the other though.

All in all a very nice find and an interesting coin!
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 Posted 07/11/2018  6:42 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice find and congratulations! It was Struck Through a Late Stage Die Cap on the obverse. On the reverse, you have a Die Crack, a Struck Through, and a Lamination as well. It's a multi error coin! Nice! http://www.error-ref.com/struck_thr...age_die_cap/

Edit: Make sure you put this in a 2x2 coin flip as soon as possible.
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More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
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Thanks folks. I was hoping it was struct through a die cap. First one I've found. Will tuck it away in an air tight.
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 Posted 07/11/2018  7:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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On the reverse, you have a Die Crack,


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 Posted 07/11/2018  7:44 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's even better then! I didn't see the second one at first. Man, this coin is a complete mess, but in a good way of course!
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More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
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 Posted 07/11/2018  7:44 pm  Show Profile   Check DrDon's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add DrDon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1985 lamination.
Could I get a weight on this coin?
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 Posted 07/11/2018  8:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 11997755 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Could I get a weight on this coin?


Weight is normal. 2.5 GM 40 GN
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 Posted 07/11/2018  8:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice. I have only ever found one.
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 Posted 07/11/2018  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Check Adam_E's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It was probably a rolling indentation rather than a lamination
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 Posted 07/11/2018  9:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not seeing a lamination on reverse, not that crisscross on right base. That looks like a struck through debris(horizontal) but the vertical indention looks me PSD of some sort.
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 Posted 07/11/2018  9:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks more like a struck through to me. Beings that zinc cents don't have lamination issues. Peeled plating struck through. But this is not a struck through foil. It is a lot stronger than foil.
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 Posted 07/11/2018  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Check DrDon's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add DrDon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
coop:

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Beings that zinc cents don't have lamination issues

This is why I posted my question hoping others would see their error.
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 Posted 07/11/2018  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KHatt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ya, with a die cap struck through debris seems more likely.
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 Posted 07/12/2018  4:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As certain others have concluded, the obverse was struck through a late-stage die cap while the reverse shows two overlapping struck-through errors.
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