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 Posted 11/25/2020  1:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EddieDiz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will have 3 more in the world coins section.

1. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 84,Unger 39,Rethy I-171,CAC Vol. II/18.4.1.1/a2.5/10. It has a sigla of one point on both sides of small cross at 2:00.





2. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 84,Unger 39,Rethy I-171,CAC Vol. II/18.4.1.1/a4.1/24. It has a sigla of two small points on both sides of small cross at 2:00.





3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 103,CAC Vol. II/18.13.1.2/b1.4/25. It has a sigla of one wedge at 8:00.





4. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 103,CAC Vol. II/18.13.1.2/a2.8/16. It has a sigla of one small point below and to the left and above and to the right of the larger point in upper left quadrant.





5. 1235-70 Hungarian Denar under King Bela IV;Huszar 299,Unger 222,CAC Vol. II/22.31.1.2/a3.2/11. It has a sigla of a small point in central circle on reverse at 3:00,6:00,and 9:00.





6. 1338 S-m Hungarian Denar under King Charles Robert;Huszar 495,Unger 393j.


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 Posted 04/06/2021  12:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EddieDiz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It took 4 months plus a week for these to get to me. I'd better post them before they change their mind.


1. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 84,Unger 39,Rethy I-71,CAC Vol. II/18.4.1.1/b2.2/34. It has a sigla of 2 small wedges at 2:00.





2. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 84,Unger 39,Rethy I-71,CAC Vol. II/18.4.1.1/b2.5/37. It has a sigla of small wedges next to crosses at 2:00 and 4:00.





3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 103,CAC Vol. II/18.13.1.2/c2.3/40. It has a sigla of 2 small lines at 4:00 and 8:00 between larger lines.





4. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 123,Unger 70,Rethy I-132,CAC Vol. II/19.9.1.1/a1.16/17. It has a sigla variety of a small point at 12:00 above central cross and has a tiny hole that you can barely see light through next to N at 9:00.





5. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 180,Unger 67,Rethy I-160,CAC Vol. II/20.20.1.1/g1.1/38. It has a sigla of a small star at 1:00.





6. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1162-72,King Stephen III?);Huszar 113,Unger 83,Rethy I-123,CAC Vol. II/19.5.1.1/b1.20/78. It has a sigla of one small wedge on horizontal cross bar between "S's".





7. 1338 B-V Hungarian Denar under King Charles Robert;Huszar 495,Unger 393f,Pohl 52-8.





8. 1526 B-P Hungarian Denar under King Louis II with an VNGAR/VNGARIE legend variation;Huszar 841,Unger 673p,Pohl 255-20. It has a crack in the rim just before the "P" in PATRONA.

I have one more in the world coins after 1600.






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 Posted 05/08/2021  02:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Squire Wilson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
...I picked up this Ludwig 1 Denar today. It is a tiny coin. It fits on the tip of my finger. I really like the combination of the Patriachal Cross and the rather "piratical" looking Saracen on the other side.

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 Posted 05/08/2021  07:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Squire Wilson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A bit more research on the Ludwig 1 Denar with the Saracen's Head on the obverse has revealed the following. From
https://negotio.io/product/1860787/...a-and-poland

"The Saracen's head is a pun on the surname of Jacobus Saracenus (Szerechen, in Hun.) and his brother, Johannes, courtiers of Italian descent who were ennobled by Louis. The image of a Saracen's head appeared on their coat of arms. Jacobus became the kammergraf at the Pécs mint in 1352, and the Comes Camerarum Regalium in 1369. He died in the early 1370s, at which time Johannes succeeded him as kammergraf."

This version is a bit different to that forwarded by tdziemia and Gabibacsi earlier on in this thread. I actually prefer the version presented by our CCF family members!
It just sounds a lot nicer. It's a special story!

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 Posted 05/08/2021  5:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin and nice post!

I will take this opportunity for a semi-digression, In addition to ruling as King of Hungary 1342-1382, Louis ruled as king of Poland 1370-1382, when his uncle, Casimir the Great of Poland died in 1370 without a male heir. In Polish he is called Ludwik Wegierski (Louis of Hungary) or Ludwik Adnegawenski (Louis of Anjou).

IN addition to those famous "Moor's head" or Saracen denars, he had denars issued in Krakow for circulation in Poland. This one bears the Piast eagle of Poland obverse, and the Hungary-Anjou arms reverse.

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 Posted 05/12/2021  12:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EddieDiz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1. 1095-1116 Hungarian Denar under King Coloman;Huszar 32,Unger 33,Rethy I-40,CAC Vol. I/11.2/a2.5/17. It has a sigla of 2 points under the "L" in CALMAN near 3:00.





2. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 91,Unger 40,Rethy I-75,CAC Vol. II/18.6.1.1/a2.4/9. It has a sigla of one point on both sides of cross between 12:30 and 3:00.





3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (111-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 84,Unger 39,Rethy I-71,CAC Vol. II/18.4.1.1/h1.1/65. It has a sigla of one small cross just before the cross in the design at 2:00.





4. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 100,CAC Vol. II/18.12.1.1/c2.1/86. It has a sigla of one vertical line in upper left and right quadrants just above the horizontal cross bar.






5. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1162-72,King Stephen III?);Huszar 118,Rethy I-131,CAC Vol. II/19.8.1.1/g1.2/43. It has a sigla of one small star above the "N" in lower right quadrant.





6. 1338 A-A Hungarian Denar under King Charles Robert;Huszar 495,Unger 393b,Pohl 52-7.


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05/12/2021 12:48 pm
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 Posted 05/12/2021  3:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bob L to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Such an impressive collection. Enjoyed the latest update. Thanks for sharing these.
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Thank you,Bob L.
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1. 1095-1116 Hungarian Denar under King Coloman;Huszar 41,Unger 34,CAC Vol. I/11.11/h1.1/30. It has a sigla of one small cross at about 3:30 just after the "L" in CALMAN.









2. Anonymaous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stephen II?);Huszar 84,Unger 39,Rethy I-71,CAC Vol. II/18.4.1.1/a1.4/5. It has a sigla of one point at 12:00 just above the central cross.





3. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1131-41,King Bela II?);Huszar 100,CAC Vol. II/18.12.1.3/a6.1/42. It has a sigla of one point in upper left and upper right quadrant s just above the horizontal cross bar and at both ends of crescents.at about 10:00 and 2:00. Just imagine the picture rotated 90 degrees counter
clockwise.







4. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1116-31,King Stehen III?);Huszar 91,Unger 40,Rethy I-75,CAC Vol. II/18.6.1.1/a3.3/12. It has a sigla of 3 points in a straight line near 3:00.







5. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1141-62,King Geza II?);Huszar 152,Unger 72,Rethy I-145,CAC Vol. II/20.9.1.1/b1.7/44. It has a sigla of one small wedge next to the wedge in the design near 2:00.







6. Anonymous Hungarian Denar (1172-96, King Bela III?);Huszar 181,Unger 95,Rethy I-162,CAC Vol. II/20.21.1.1/c3.2/34. It has a sigla of 3 lines separate from each other that forms a square "U" near 12:30.





7. 1373-82 Hungarian Denar (Saracen head) under King Louis I;Huszar 548,Unger 433,Pohl 90.This is similar to the saracen head denar posted earlier in the thread by Squire Wilson except this one has a crown at the base of the double cross.


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 Posted 06/16/2021  09:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bob L to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another great update with superior photo work. Interesting to see the side profile after so many radial symmetries.
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 Posted 06/16/2021  10:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EddieDiz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you,Bob L. Sometimes I have to get a little creative describing these siglae locations.
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