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 Posted 08/17/2018  8:03 pm Show Profile   Check edweather's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add edweather to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Or are they related somehow to each other? Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
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 Posted 08/17/2018  8:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Insider2 on the CU forums would know
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 Posted 08/17/2018  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nope.
Never.
Completely separate companies.

ACG went out of business after the divorce, the wife ran it for a bit out of Florida and then it popped up for a last run in Canada.

PCI has gone through several ownerships, bankruptcy, sold to David Lawrence Rare Coins and ran as DGS for a while.

After they closed down it was sold and run as a fraudulent TPG (actually an FPG) in 2011.

It was bought and restarted again. The latest slabs have a label I call the bullet train - looks like train tracks. Here's an example (absurd price): https://www.ebay.com/itm/253819274534

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 Posted 08/17/2018  8:51 pm  Show Profile   Check edweather's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey, great! Thanks for the info.
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 Posted 07/29/2019  3:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
An update - hunting through old threads and refound this.

I think PCI is FINALLY dead. Their web domain, pcicoins.com now redirects to an Indonesian page (since April 1, 2019)... it's now "The Most Trusted Online Live Casino gambling site", but given how their grading was, that's not a big change.
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 Posted 07/29/2019  4:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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but given how their grading was, that's not a big change.
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 Posted 07/29/2019  9:07 pm  Show Profile   Check edweather's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, I think the fork is officially in them.
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 Posted 07/29/2019  9:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh well, back in the day PCI coins commanded higher prices than NGC and PCGS as reported on the gray sheet. Really!
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 Posted 07/29/2019  9:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's kind of hard to believe, I must say. Not sure how you could corroborate this.
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Highly doubt that
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 Posted 07/31/2019  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Easy to corroborate and generally not true.

Old grey sheets are available in the NNP archives (The Coin Dealer Newsletter)... there used to be a published table relating prices of the various grading companies, e.g from 29 Jan 1993:



Obviously, there were some coins where PCI had the high price, but the average is 90% vs. 95% for PCGS.
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Thanks for that!
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Old grey sheets are available in the NNP archives (The Coin Dealer Newsletter)... there used to be a published table relating prices of the various grading companies, e.g from 29 Jan 1993:
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