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 Posted 08/19/2018  04:07 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add poppaman3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I recently acquired an example of this coin in roughly ms20 - 25 condition with the reverse rotated more than 60 degrees but less than 90 degrees (about 75 degrees). I am trying to ascertain the relative rarity of this coin and an approximate value. Can anyone assist me here?

Any assistance is appreciated...
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 Posted 08/19/2018  05:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to CCF. Give it a bit and members will chime in. Can you post pics? Are you flipping the coin from 6 to 12 or 3 to 9?If you put it in a 2x2 with one staple at the 6k position and then take a pic and post it might also help.
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 Posted 08/19/2018  07:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 09rich15 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Rotated die strikes in that time period are fairly common.
These common ones are usually found between 5 and 20% off-center and will have a minor attraction to error collectors. However, a coin with a 75% rotation will surely grab their attention and add a little more value to the coin.
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@poppaman3, first welcome to CCF. Second, I agree that adding pics of your coin would be useful. Also, I'm confused about your use of this terminology:


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ms20 - 25


as the MS means mint state. Do you mean VF20-25 perhaps?
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 Posted 08/19/2018  09:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1818 N 1, 3, and 7 all come with and without rotated reverses, N-3 I know comes with varying amounts of rotation, not sure about the others or if the other varieties may come with rotations as well.
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 Posted 08/19/2018  10:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add poppaman3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for all your replies... Pics will be posted shortly. When "flipped" top to bottom I am aware that the coin reverse should appear upright: it is rotated clockwise about 80 reg. as previously mentioned.

Apologies for use of term "ms20": I hesitate to use "F", "VF" or the like as I'm unsure where one ends and the other begins... On the 70 point scale, it is about a 20 - 25.

Again, thanks for assistance and responses; pics to follow...
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Google for "Sheldon Scale" you will find the right breakpoint.
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Attempting to attach images as promised...



Note the position of the black stripe / tape wtbedge of image (could not save rotated image - working from an android phone)...
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That doesn't really look like a large amount of rotation, especially for those early cents.

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@KK... Sorry, but I could not get both pics oriented properly (technical limitations...). The reverse image is actually 90 deg. rotated (note the black tape at top of obverse pic and same black tape at left edge of reverse pic. I will need to take new pics, as I still cannot get the reverse orientation to work/display properly...
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Can you prop the coin in front of a mirror and get a picture of both sides (with reasonable focus and decent lighting)?
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Can you prop the coin in front of a mirror and get a picture of both sides (with reasonable focus and decent lighting)?


Try that. It will work. I would take Alpha2814's advice.
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 Posted 08/20/2018  12:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add poppaman3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All... First, thanks for all your efforts and suggestions; I really do appreciate them.

My efforts to obtain a useful image using a mirror have been unsuccessful.

I have taken new photos with proper orientation - note position of staple in these two pics - if this helps, please let me know your thoughts

Thanks again,

PaulR.

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That looks pretty rotated! It's a good one too! It looks like it rotated 93 degrees counterclockwise. Once the die rotates to 90 degrees or more, it's considered collectable by coin collectors.
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Noted and thanks for the affirmation. Anyone have any thoughts as to value? As stated before, my estimation is that it is about a 20 - 25 grade coin and valued (without rotation) at about USD 75.00 - USD 100.00. What premium would this rotation put on it?

Thanks for all your assistance.....
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