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Need help figuring out what this Geometric Triangle is from on my Morgan

 
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 Posted 08/28/2018  3:38 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Balin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I've looked everywhere and researched online, but I can't figure out what this cool geometric triangle is from on my 1889 Morgan. You can visibly see it from pretty far. I inherited some coins from my grandfather who was in the Navy. Any help would be appreciated!
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 Posted 08/28/2018  3:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It may be a "chop mark" what oriental moneyers/bankers would stamp on to certify coin is silver and worthy of exchange? Or it is Just a counter-stamp of some obscure meaning as "the Broken A Ranch"?

Or it could be...aliens.....
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 Posted 08/28/2018  4:20 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like some type of counterstamp. It's Post Strike Damage (it happened after it left the U.S. Mint).
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 Posted 08/28/2018  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kurrency Ken to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Are the lines incused, cut into the coin. They almost looked raised?

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 Posted 08/28/2018  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My answer may be a little out there but it might be a variation of the Anarchy symbol. Typically and A with a Circle O around it, this looks to me more like the A for Anarchy with the V for Vendetta.

There was even some "Anarchy" coins in England minted around the mid-1100s. But, the contemporary symbolism has no relation.

Anyway, that's my take.
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 Posted 08/28/2018  5:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Balin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
KK, They look raised. Here is a close up

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 Posted 08/28/2018  6:06 pm  Show Profile   Check Adam_E's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's damaged for sure, the raised metal is displaced from whatever gouged it.
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 Posted 08/28/2018  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not a counterstamp as it is raised.
A counterstamp would be incuse.
As Adam stated, looks like someone has cut into
the coin. Must have some significant meaning to somebody.
In any case, it is PMD which will devaluate the coin.
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 Posted 08/28/2018  6:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Balin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the input so far. I appreciate everyone taking time to reply with their thought as to what this Mark is or might be from. As I welcome any and all input, I understand that the majority of the community here considers it "damage" from a collector's view, and I respect that, but please going forward, if you have the same thoughts, please and respectfully refrain from repeating others. I'm looking to try and find out what this beautiful, unique (because it sounds like no one has seen it before) marking is from. Definitely my favorite coin in the bunch : )
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 Posted 08/28/2018  7:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aristarchus123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It might qualify as graffiti (in the numismatic sense) if the marks are intended to exhibit the letter "A". Fun coin to inherit! There must be a story somewhere.
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 Posted 08/28/2018  7:30 pm  Show Profile   Check paralyse's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bored math student with a Morgan dollar? :P

"I bet I can calculate the angle between the chin and midline of the bust and then get the length of the opposite leg of the triangle with the Pythagorean theorem..."

Maybe it's also a prototype drawing for a device designed to keep your head from hitting the desk while sleeping through math class...an A-frame laid over on its leftmost side. Might be a bit uncomfortable, but it would work...

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 Posted 08/28/2018  8:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Balin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Paraly(z)e, Very funny.
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 Posted 08/29/2018  12:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Given that it lines up perfectly with the artwork (that is, the side strokes of the "A" stop exactly at the chin and neck-line of the portrait) I would assume that it is someone's effort at "improving" the portrait, rather than merely carving a letter "A". It reminds me of the POW "trench art" coins from the Boer War, where bored prisoners carved new details onto coins to give President Kruger a top hat and pipe, or Queen Victoria a shawl. Perhaps they were trying to make it look like Ms Liberty was wearing a high starched collar?

Is there something else scratched onto the coin in between the eye and the "E"?
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 Posted 08/29/2018  5:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Balin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sap, here are a few more pictures. Yes, and alnost looks like some triangles above eye too




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 Posted 08/29/2018  5:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What is the MM on your Morgan.
Hope someone didn't damage an expensive coin.
Those triangles above the eye are from taking a hit.
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