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1922 LWC no D fake, maybe some 1909-S IH fakes

 
 
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 Posted 09/12/2018  08:26 am Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Just saw this 1922 no D on one-day auction on eBay coming up in a few hours. Doesn't match any known no D die that I know of (plus coin has nicks all over it except right where the D would have been polished off) so I looked at other things he has sold recently. Sold an entire string of 1909-S Indian heads all from the same die in exactly the same fake-looking condition (note the die marker above the E in CENT and inside the top of the N of CENT). Also recently sold a 1922 no D for over a thousand bucks that does not match the strong reverse as the L is not against the rim. Might be something there for the experts to look into.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/lachi-11/m...047675.l2562
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 Posted 09/12/2018  08:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Would you please post the 12 digit ID number.
Thanks
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 Posted 09/12/2018  08:54 am  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Took me a while to figure out where that tiny little number is: 223141138723
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 Posted 09/12/2018  11:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Doesn't look right to me.
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 Posted 09/12/2018  11:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To me it does look like an altered 1922 no D cent.
The strike is not weak enough to be genuine as the no D was created from an over polished die.
Too late to report it but we can keep an eye on this seller for future listings.
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 Posted 09/12/2018  11:23 am  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Did you look at all those 1909-S Indian heads in his sold listings? They look even worse than the 22-D, but I am by no means an expert on fakes just a casual collector of them when I can buy them actually as fakes.
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 Posted 09/12/2018  12:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Even a MS 22 plain doesn't have that much detail on the obv.
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 Posted 09/12/2018  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with JimmyD on this one. It's an altered 1933 no D cent.
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More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
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