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 Posted 09/20/2018  10:15 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add EconBrony to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Howdy All!

I am happy to report I can still access the coin community forums in China! My wife and I moved to Wuxi, China so that we could take professorships at Jiangnan University. Wuxi is a beautiful city with a population around that of Chicago and it is located near two fresh water lakes and a small mountain range. The city has quite a few scenic sites including the Ancient Town. The campus itself has a river flowing right through it to the lakes and it butts right up to the mountains. The university has almost 30000 students between the undergrad and grad programs. The landscaping throughout campus is pretty amazing,

Down in Temple Market I have found about 30 different coin dealers :) They sell mainly Chinese coins, but they have some US mixed in here and there. My phone has the NGC and PCGS apps on it so I can quickly match the coin up with information. So far everything I have checked has been good. PCGS is by far the most popular out here being they have a couple different offices in China and the Chinese seem to really like them. The only good Chinese grading company I have run into is Gongbo coins. They use the same 70 point scale for all coins that have been made with machines. For ancient coins they use a 100 point scale. They have a website where you can look up records on coins just like the NGC and PCGS. From what I've seen their grading isn't too bad either.
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 Posted 09/20/2018  10:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From what you say it does sound like Chicago. So why not just go to Chicago?
Just remember that almost all of the fake coins we here in the USA run into are from China so be careful. 30 coin dealers? Sounds like that area is full of either coin collectors or a lot of counterfeiters. Be careful out there.
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 Posted 09/20/2018  10:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EconBrony to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
O yeah, I'll be watching for sure! I ran into a counterfeit PCGS slab in my trip out here in January. As far as why there are so many dealers, Temple Market is this hub of small shops and stores. Each section has its own thems. One very large section is antiques, old books, and coins. A short walk from there you can find collectibles from Japan from animes and mangas. On the other side of temple market you'll find the touristee stuff and a bit of a flea market. Its hard to put Temple Market into words, its shear size is mind boggling and there are just so many small shops. Theres even quite a few rock and mineral dealers. On top of that the buildings the shops are in are restored from the 1800s.
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 Posted 09/21/2018  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EconBrony to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No problem, I'm hoping to attend a coin show in Shanghai and Hong Kong during my stay here. I'll have to take some pics and share them from the shows. I hear the Hong Kong show is pretty amazing
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 Posted 09/22/2018  11:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sounds like a good time. Good and and we will be looking forward to that report!
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 Posted 09/23/2018  9:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kopper Ken to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How's the currency market there? Chinese notes are hot here in the states, a lot of Chinese collectors.

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 Posted 09/24/2018  01:39 am  Show Profile   Check spruett001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spruett001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good luck on the hunt!


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Its hard to put Temple Market into words, its shear size is mind boggling and there are just so many small shops.


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 Posted 09/26/2018  06:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EconBrony to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Kurrency Ken I'm told that Chinese Currency is quite hot. Currency is the main seller at the show in the Beijing Show and the Shanghai Show. Coins are the bigger seller in the Hong Kong show. I think that has a bit to do with the customs laws though. In Hong Kong you can export pretty much any coin you want in and out of the country. Here in the mainland China, anything before the year 1900 is considered an antique and part of China's precious Heritage so they cannot be exported out of the country. There are exceptions to the rule though. I am currently not sure how you get permission to move coins before 1900 out of the country legally, but I am working on finding out. A lot of common ancient Chinese coinage is pretty easy to get out, they don't seem to care about those coins.
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 Posted 09/26/2018  06:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EconBrony to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@spruett001 Thanks! Hoping to find some high grade copper coins from 1902 to 1910 to start my collection of Chinese coins.

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 Posted 09/26/2018  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cipster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for checking in with us. Enjoy your time in China.


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So are all of the fake coins found in China made in the U.S. ?
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 Posted 09/26/2018  9:30 pm  Show Profile   Check paralyse's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Econbrony, congrats on the move & good luck over there. China is an exciting & cool place to visit, it's a shame that a lot of Americans think Beijing = China, that you have to wear a smog mask to walk outside, that everyone's dirt-poor, uneducated and dejected, or that it's home to a bunch of rabid anti-American communists plotting to take over the world that will toss you in a Chinese jail forever if you make a joke about the Party.

Chinese folks go to work, go out on dates, get married, hang out with their family, spend all day on Baidu or Ali on their Xiaomi and Huawei smartphones, play video games online, dance, party, celebrate holidays, shoot off fireworks, have street parades, collect coins, travel abroad, go on vacations, do karaoke and stand-up comedy, shop for tons of things online, grow fresh food and raise animals on farms, plant flowers in their gardens, keep dogs and cats and fish, and do pretty much everything else Americans do on a regular basis except, maybe, drive cars.

They do all of this while enjoying much less crime than Americans, on average, especially when it comes to burglaries, robberies, murders, hate crimes, auto theft, physical and sexual assaults, and gun violence.


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However, you sound a bit naive when it comes to the Chinese gov't. True, it's not the 1930's gestapo or SS tactics with check points and checking papers. If your living quarters are not bugged, they're being surveilled and all your (this) social media you're using is being monitored.


Same thing in the US, Britain, Russia, Korea, Singapore, and many other countries where Internet traffic, voice calls, text messages and almost any other form of electronic communication are being scanned, processed, analyzed, and, if needed, stored for future use.

At least China (and Russia) are straightforward and honest about the fact that they spy on their citizens' Internet activity and their daily routines. The US does not extend such a courtesy to its citizens -- our government simply spies on us and then denies it, until their top-secret dirty laundry gets leaked to the press by disgruntled employees.


Note: As of 2013, according to the Chinese website Global Times, China had 848,500 foreign nationals residing in-country, growing at a rate of 3.9% annually. ( Source: http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/913109.shtml )
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 Posted 09/26/2018  9:57 pm  Show Profile   Check spruett001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spruett001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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No, I have not, but where I live is home to what is supposedly the world's largest flea market. In reality, I have no idea about the Temple Market.
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 Posted 09/26/2018  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@EconBrony,

Congrats on landing you job in China, I would enjoy and not worry about being spy on or whatever, there are plenty of other things the Chinese government need to worry about.


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If you are going to Hong Kong when you get the chance, I would at least take 7-10 days to sight see and get to dine in different area. It is a totally different atmosphere over where you reside now.

Special territory, so you wont have the same type of restrictions.

I worry about the tourist traps more than I worry about the government.

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 Posted 09/27/2018  09:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EconBrony to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@paralyse Thank you! Yeah I was quite impressed by the Chinese people on my first visit here. Everyone was so nice and inviting! What really impressed me was the entrepreneurial spirit here. So many Chinese folks have small businesses; from owning small shops, to moving farmers market to the guy that carries his whole shop in his trench coat. Their all trying so hard to make it and they are allowed to do so.

The cities are quite impressive. Shanghai's skyline is something else! The mass transit is done so well and up-kept. I love being able to jump on the subway and explore so many new places for under a dollar for the ride. Then if I wanted to, I can take high speed trains out to many major cities. A new high speed just opened to Hong Kong.

I think a lot of people just need to see China in person. Seeing pictures is one thing, but seeing it is completely another. It is just mind-boggling to see how much China has built up in 40 short years.
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