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British Colonial Coinage And Some Extras

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 Posted 10/31/2018  06:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Palouche to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1862 ....Next denomination is the 1/2 Anna...

1/2 Anna = 2 Pice = 1/32 Indian Rupee..

Coins minted from 1862 through to 1874 all have the date 1862.
The next dated 1/2 Anna is 1875 and the last 1/2 Anna coin minted was in 1877...

In general this denomination was heavily circulated and the majority of them are usually found quite worn,especially the portrait side...The price increases considerably if well detailed..

In 1862 there were four variations using two types of Bust..Legend "Victoria Queen".See Ref#1 detail.

Bust A - The front of the dress has 4-1/2 Jabots/panels. The bottom, incomplete panel has no flowers.
Bust B - The front of the dress has 4 Jabots/panels.
Also the Floral Designs differ..See Ref #1
Please note.. There was a Bust C type but this was not used on the 1862 seris..


There were two types of reverse...

Reverse I - The "1" in the date has a slanted top. The word "ANNA" has narrow spacing. Note the position of the A's in "ANNA" almost immediately below the "H" and "F" of HALF.
Reverse II - The "1" in the date has a flat top. The word "ANNA" has wide spacing. Note the word "ANNA" is much wider than the word "HALF" above it.



1862 1/2 Anna K-468 Victoria Queen
Kolkata (Calcutta) Mint
Bust A..Reverse I.. 31.3mm dia..4,802,496
Bust B..Reverse II..31.3mm dia..
Mumbai (Bombay) Mint
Bust A..Reverse I.. 30.5mm dia..7,235,886
Chennai (Madras) Mint
Bust A..Reverse I.. 30.7mm dia..66,514,560

Heres my coin....Better detailed than Directors coin eh!?
Vic 4..Bust A..Reverse I...Kolkata Mint..31.3mm dia/12.7 grams..K#468

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 Posted 10/31/2018  08:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scopru to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So what are the differences between a restrike vs an original. Is that something that can be described and then some photos shown?

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 Posted 10/31/2018  08:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Palouche to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@scopru....Restrikes and Proof coins arent my area of collecting maybe Director will give more details...

What I do know is that Proof coins were produced purely for collectors.Small numbers were minted using new dies,basically to produce a perfect coin..The variants used ,as far as I know were no, were not different to the standard regular issued coins, just a very high quality.

For example This specimen Proof coin was lot 1409 in Ponterio sale 173 (New York, January 2013), where it sold for $1,645.


I dont know what Director paid for his Business strike coin but probably in the hundreds? His coin is still beautifully detailed with good surfaces but you can see a few small dings around the edge etc
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For example This specimen Proof coin was lot 1409 in Ponterio sale 173 (New York, January 2013), where it sold for $1,645.
Beautiful!
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 Posted 10/31/2018  1:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Arkie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are my post-EIC Victorian British Indian coins.





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Here are my post-EIC Victorian British Indian coins.
Very nice!
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 Posted 10/31/2018  4:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Palouche to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Arkie I Assume your posting your coins because you want them attributed?

I hope the work I did on your last coins helped?

Your first coin is an 1882 A1-dot

Bust A..Reverse type I..Raised dot below date Mumbai (Bombay) Mint.56,397,287

Only Bust A types were used in 1882..Distinguishing feature is it has 3 3/4 Jabots/panels in the front of the dress...

There were 3 types of reverse used in 1882 see Ref# 1..

Yours is Reverse I - The top flower is open with long, curved petals. The "1" in the date has a flat top.The flower to the left of the date has 5 petals.
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 Posted 10/31/2018  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Arkie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Many thanks. I post my coins because it appears to me that the more grist is supplied to your mill, the more edification we all receive in response. As well as to encourage you that your knowledge is appreciated.
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 Posted 11/01/2018  06:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Palouche to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@ Arkie..Glad I'm helping no hindering...
Arkies second coin is....1887 Half Rupee A/I - "C" incuse K#491

Bust type A...Reverse type I..Kolkata (Calcutta) Mint..2,275,000
There were only 2 types minted in 1887
A/I - "C" incuse Calcutta Mint 2,275,000 K#491
A/II - "B" raised Bombay Mint 407,000 ? K#491

Type A - The front of the dress has 4 panels.
Type B - The front of the dress has 4-1/2 This type is apparently seen only on coins of 1874-1877, 1881 and 1882
Type C - Similar to Type B, but the dress has 4-3/4 panels and the floral design of the dress is different. This type is apparently unique to 1862.
The floral design of the dress is different for all three types. See Ref# 1.


There were 2 types of reverse used..See Ref# 2..
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1862...We know move into the silver coinage the next denomination is 2 Annas..These were produced using 0.917 silver at 1.46 grams.

2 Annas = 1/8 Indian Rupee

In 1862 there were three mints running for the 2 Annas..There are no mintmarks and can only be distiguished by size of diametre..

NOTE..The 1862 date was used without changing for 11 years so the next dated 2 Annas coin is 1874..(As per the 1/12 Anna and 1/4 Anna).

Two Bust Types were used throughout the whole 2 Annas series 1862-1901
Note .. Only Bust A was used for the 1862 date series..See Ref# 1..
Bust Type A - The front of the dress has 4 panels. The bottom panel has 3 leaves at the left and a small flower at the upper right.
Bust Type B - The front of the dress has 3-1/2 panels. The bottom incomplete panel has only 3 leaf tops showing.


There were 2 types of Reverse..See Ref# 2..
Reverse I - The top flower is large and has two large petals above its base that are long and curve downward.
Reverse II - The top flower is small and has two large petals above its base that are short and horizontal.


Note.. There is a slight unique variation of the Kolkata (Calcutta) mint..Bottom flower has long petals or short..See below..

1862 Two Annas K#469
Bust A..Reverse I - 15.3-15.4mm..Edge plain..Kolkata (Calcutta) 29,653,000 Including both variations above...
Bust A..Reverse I - 15.7-15.9mm..Edge plain..Mumbai (Bombay) 21,037,000
Bust A..Reverse I - 16mm..Edge Plain..Chennai (Madras) 4,202,000

Heres my coin...
1862 Two Annas K#469 Bust A..Reverse I - 15.7-15.9mm (Bombay) 21,037,000
I really like the toning on this coin..

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 Posted 11/02/2018  07:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scopru to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
More great information!
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 Posted 11/02/2018  09:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jason39305 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Reading this thread has been very interesting. Thanks for sharing. I have just one British India coin, a 1943 1/2 Anna. It's nickel brass and square in shape.
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 Posted 11/02/2018  09:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Palouche to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks scopru..

@jason39305...Please feel free to post a photo..There are some rarer types of this coin but will need photos to identify....Paul
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 Posted 11/03/2018  02:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Director to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a rare combination. Lets see if our own Palouche can decipher this for us.





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 Posted 11/03/2018  02:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Palouche to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Its a Calcutta mint B/III 0/0...Nice coin!

Bust B...Reverse III......Rare

The reverse III was only used on 2 coins from 1862 the OP coin and A/III 0/0


I will be posting an in depth description of the 1862 Rupee...
A collecting area all of its own with 42 known varieties...
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