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Unidentified thick silver coin, Arabic writing on both sides, 18mm 4.7g?

 
 
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 Posted 10/08/2018  10:27 pm Show Profile   Check paralyse's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Kushanshah, other CCF friends, some help would be appreciated!

Coin is 4.7 grams, quite thick and almost 18mm at the widest. That seems heavy for a dirham but about the right diameter.

I think I can make out the numerals for "96" or "69" in the top left of the 2nd photo but that's about it and even that's a pure guess.

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 Posted 10/08/2018  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Check echizento's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Kushanshah will know better than I, but it looks like a Sultan Of Delhi coin.
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 Posted 10/08/2018  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Check paralyse's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thought about that, since I do have one, but perhaps it's the thickness difference that's off. But then again, you may be entirely correct!
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 Posted 10/09/2018  3:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Seeker55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can make out the numbers 96 on the upper left of the second photo. Sorry can't help other than that.
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 Posted 10/14/2018  5:51 pm  Show Profile   Check paralyse's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
After spending way too much time looking at listings on vcoins and eBay I am now fairly confident that it is a Sultanate coin but not sure which one as it bears similarities to Khalji and Tughluqid coins. I'm just going to record it as "Indian Sultanate" for now and revisit it later.
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 Posted 10/14/2018  8:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kushanshah to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've looked at this several times but I can't ID it. The date seems to be AH 96x or x96. The weight is right for a Timurid tanka or Mughal shahrukhi of the 960s. They are really the same denomination with different regional names. The same standard may have been used by other dynasties of the time as well. The first image is the kalima. In the second, the only clear word is "sultan" in the top line.
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@KS Thanks for your reply! I will spend more time looking at Timurid and Mughal issues and see if I can find a pattern match.

Edit: it is awfully close to several Timurid tanka issued during the reign of Nasir al-Din Mahmud Shah III (Gujarat Sultanate) and dated to the 960s AH. However the weight of this suggests it might be a 1/2 tanka on a larger flan? (average 3.7-3.8 grams at the 32 rati standard but 14-15mm) -- the 64 rati standard full tanka listed all have weights of around 7.1-7.3 grams at 18-19mm diameter.
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According to Album, the post-reform Timurid tankas should weigh 4.78g and the Mughal shahrukhi of the same period 4.7g. The closest thing I found design-wise were Mughal shahrukhis of Akbar which have the looped frame around the kalima but the other legend didn't match. The 2nd line has "abu al-" as part of what may be (emphasis maybe) abu'l-muzaffar.

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 Posted 10/15/2018  8:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kushanshah to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@paralyse I browsed through the Gujarat section in Goron and Goenka's The Coins of the Indian Sultanates. I do see the types you are referring to but the resemblance is superficial. None of the Gujarat coins has the kalima.
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