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1909 S (Weak) VDB Lincoln Cent "To V Or Not To V" You Vs NGC

 
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 Posted 10/23/2018  10:54 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add luvmyCAM to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Thought forum members would like to see what a graded super weak VDB looks like. Picked this one up at substantial discount off book and am open to opinions on this controversial cent. Viewers will have to use some imagination to see the V.D.B. my son says "I see nuthin Dad you got ripped" of course I see it bold and mountainous like. Does anyone else own one of these and scoffers please do elaborate. I put this one in the same category as my 1922 no D weak reverse (controversial).
Comments solicited. Don't forget to guess the grade. Sorry about angles, my android is fighting wars with Forum download applications and losing badly.






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 Posted 10/23/2018  10:58 am  Show Profile   Check BigSilver's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BigSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see nuffin
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 Posted 10/23/2018  10:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not one I would buy.
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 Posted 10/23/2018  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add luvmyCAM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ouch goldeagle, ouch bigsilver,how abought grade?
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 Posted 10/23/2018  11:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Grade at VG-8 appears to be correct. With the VDB so weak (I can't even see any sign), it would be a hard coin to sell if ever removed from the NGC slab.
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 Posted 10/23/2018  11:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, but I can't see the VDB from these images. Maybe in hand it's more visible.
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 Posted 10/23/2018  1:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sadly, must agree. It deserved to be sold at a substantial discount.
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 Posted 10/23/2018  2:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Sorry, but I can't see the VDB from these images. Maybe in hand it's more visible.

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 Posted 10/23/2018  2:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The weak VDB in the Philly version is faint but clearly visible in all the examples I've seen.
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 Posted 10/23/2018  7:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have never see an S VDB with a weak VDB. Since the dies were fresh and they made so few, it's exceptionally unusual to have the VDB weak. I can't see it in the pictures but it must be there if NGC certified it. It must be a grease filled die.
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 Posted 10/23/2018  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 10/23/2018  11:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add luvmyCAM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Too much light the vdb disappears. In low light you can discern the V and period, D and period, and a B busted up by a ding but no period. I was wondering if it could be one of the shadow vdb mentioned in one of the articles I read or simply like Badthad said ; grease filled and extreme wear. If I did bust it out doubt I could sell it as S vdb. Breath on it and it would be gone forever. Man this is gotta be the weakest vdb in the world, maybe its worth more? don't forget to guess a grade onthe coin.
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 Posted 10/23/2018  11:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's the real problem, whether it is or not most people wouldn't want to pay up for that type when you need a microscope to see what makes it that type.
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 Posted 10/24/2018  12:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ty88ty2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting coin for sure, if the price was right, I might have bought it. with VG-08.
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 Posted 10/24/2018  07:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scopru to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am with the others at VG.

I see no traces of VDB from you photos. Weak I think is quite an understatement in this case. I do hope the cost was greatly reduced since this could also be a mislabel in the worst case scenario.

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 Posted 10/24/2018  10:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i cant get an exact match to any known obverse die for an 09S vdb.
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