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1944 P LWC This One Has A Different Sound.

 
 
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 Posted 01/11/2019  11:41 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Jim0815 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
In my grandfather's collection is this very common 1944 P LWC. For all purposes sake it is a very plain cent, weighs 3.05 grams. Almost every one of the 1944 cents that I have are darker in color so the coloration really is a non factor here. The factor here is it has a very high pitch ring when doing a drop test. Granted all 1944 cents have a ring to them as we all know. When conducting this six inch dropped test I used five different 1944 cents and three 1942 cents. The four 1944 cents,(the other 1944 cent is the one in question), had a duller sounding ring. The 1944 that I have a question about has the same high pitch ring as the three 1942 cents. My question is this, could this 1944 cent be from a pre war planchet? I know that pre war metal composition is 95% copper 5% tin and zinc, from 1944-1946 the metal composition is 95% brass(shell case copper) and 5% tin. If it is a pre war planchet, is it something that is common? It may be nothing but I ran this test twice through with the same results.



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 Posted 01/11/2019  11:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It most likely is a rolled thin planchet.
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The looks like it was harshly cleaned along the way.
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Coop, I'm sure at some point it may have been. I've had his collection since 1985 (he passed in 1984), it has been in its holder until this morning. Is there any probability it is a pre war planchet and what type of test would determine it?
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Reminds me of a product called Brasso. This was used to clean Drum symbols. This made the sound different when they were cleaned.
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The weight isn't off enough to bring a premium unfortunately. It's still within the Mint tolerances.
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Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
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