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1972 P LMC Doubling Above The Horizontal Bar On The 2.

 
 
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 Posted 03/13/2019  1:52 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Jim0815 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have this 1972 P LMC and there is doubling above the horizontal bar on the 2. I cannot find anything that matches, not even a match with any Die markers from any stage of the other known examples. It came from one of the doubled master hub dies that are common. New variety? Thoughts?







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 Posted 03/13/2019  2:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add levelsofmadnes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Jim0815,

At first I was thinking master hub double...but after looking, it resemble WDDO-012. With the pics you provided, I can only make out that one die marker on the "G".

Tell me what you think?
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 Posted 03/13/2019  2:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To me that mark on the 2 on your coin looks more like a "dot" and on the ones on CCs' site are elongated horizontally,hope that makes sense
Yours might be a die gouge or something like that?
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 Posted 03/13/2019  2:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add levelsofmadnes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hmm agree that the first pic of the date looks like the dot.

But that second pic of the date looks closer to the DDO; maybe it was the lighting.
I have noticed from my pics the angle of the light and BAM! Looks like I have a different coin.

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 Posted 03/13/2019  2:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are some doubled dies on that area of the master die doubling. There is some affect on the MDD examples on this area. Note below.

Wexler does list more than the V.V. site. But What I see on Wexler's listings are more sweeping examples to the east
http://doubleddie.com/384301.html
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 Posted 03/13/2019  2:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add levelsofmadnes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Coop!

More great info with pics included
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 Posted 03/13/2019  2:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What are your thoughts Mr. Coop?
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 Posted 03/13/2019  3:36 pm  Show Profile   Check Tanman2001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Tanman2001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd be skeptical of it being a DDO if there are no matches, this could easily be a die gouge. However, it does look similar to some of the listed DDOs, so it could be a new one.
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 Posted 03/14/2019  09:11 am  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It could be part of the Master Die Doubling issue.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
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