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1984 Lincoln Penny Machine Doubling? Is There Any Error Here At All?

 
 
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 Posted 03/13/2019  6:54 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Rookie2018 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
What do you guys think? Sorry for inadequate pics.




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 Posted 03/13/2019  7:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like possible minor Machine Doubling in US of A. Please orient your pics correctly and give us close-ups of areas you think exhibit this.
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03/13/2019 7:01 pm
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 Posted 03/13/2019  7:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rookie2018 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Look at D and S in first picture. You'll need to Zoom in :)
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 Posted 03/13/2019  7:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@rookie, when I blow up your pics, the image is too pixelated to see doubling. I do see a die crack coming off the corner of the Lincoln Memorial.
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 Posted 03/13/2019  7:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rookie2018 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Okey. When I look at the coin, the lettering is in SUPER. 3D, not like the other coins that look "flat" to me.

Does this pic help? I'm talking about D in United and S in states. It's probably nothing. Thanks for y'alls help and feedback


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 Posted 03/13/2019  8:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
But the problem is that you are looking at the edges of the devices. If it were hub doubling (a doubled die) you would need to look at the center of the device to note spread on the devices. It would be wider than normal, not an outside of the edge of the device reduced.
Here is a previous year with a doubled die so you can see what I'm talking about.


Now check back at your coin. The MD is affecting the edges of those two devices. Pushing the devices inwards. On the two image I posted, the devices are enlarged in size. Note the spread on the centers of the devices. On your coin there is a reduction of a normal device that you are looking at. Hope this helps, but Machine Doubling is one of the biggest hurdles a new collector has to take time to figure out. Also note that the devices when affected are more than just one or two devices on the coin. A great portion is affected on a stronger doubled die.
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

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 Posted 03/13/2019  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rookie2018 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for that comparison, I appreciate that. You are absolutely correct coop. I was badly wanting to see double die haha... definitely not error. Thanks for the help! Cheers!
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Always glad to help out. I seldom give yes or no answers. I try to tell everyone one what I see on their coin, then they will see what I see.
Richard S. Cooper
Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 03/14/2019  09:20 am  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Common Machine Doubling. It's a spender.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
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