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1916 Lincoln Wheat Cent - Prooflike Toned Coin

 
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 Posted 04/13/2019  12:52 am  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now wouldn't that just be cool squared! Yes, please do send along the side-by-sides as I am interested in seeing those as well. Just love to hear that you are seeing the markers, as that is pretty key to the whole thing.

So the next question is, which TPG does best with possible matte proofs? Certainly want to run it by the best folks for such a thing, but likely it'll end up getting sent to the specialist either way no matter who I send it to.

(I see Jimbucks beat me to the question!)
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04/13/2019 12:53 am
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 Posted 04/13/2019  01:12 am  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply




I've got better then these, but I'll make those in the morning
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 Posted 04/13/2019  10:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 1916 coins all showed the strongest dev a designs. The Mercury dime has the strongest design compared with other years . The cent as well has the strongest design compared with other years why? I don't know unless it was for the unveiling of the new designs oh the Dimes, halves and Quarters that year? But with the die wear on this example I feel it is a business strike coin.
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 04/13/2019  10:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gorgeous coin and I hope for the best TB but I have to agree with Coop. Lots of die pitting on the reverse as well.

Not real familiar with these much but the die scratch on the S (TRUST) of your coin appears to be higher than the marker image Grapecollects posted. The die scratch marker to the right of S appears to be a continuation of the die scratch between US. TB's coin & comparison image seems to be higher.

I also wonder if the dings/damage (tip of nose, jaw, N of CENT) would get it a "Details" grade.

Best of luck whichever route you take.
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 Posted 04/13/2019  11:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add acloco to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Anxiously await the opinion of the TPG.

Neat coin.

Thank you for sharing. Please post results when you can.
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 Posted 04/13/2019  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pretty much in full agreement on the Coop/Petespockets comments. Certainly seems a late die stage for a proof that struck very few coin, and I personally am not picking up the die markers. Also quite worried about the grade with those dings. That said, I'll take a 1916 BS made with proof dies in "details" or "scratched" over not having one. And if I ever decide to sell it I think the photos will show the coin is quite nice even if the label says details.

Still hoping to get a chime in here from someone with advice on which TPG would handle this better. My default is PCGS unless otherwise noted that NGC would be better.

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 Posted 04/13/2019  3:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe take it to a coin shows and see if one of the grading companies have a table there?

Matte Proof:


Richard S. Cooper
Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 04/13/2019  5:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, you can learn something new everyday. For me today I learned that there were Matte proof Buffalo nickels. Who knew? There were 6 total. 1913 type 1 and 2, 1914, 1915, 1916 and 1936. So I made some images so you can see them and some have a comparison with a normal and matte proof (1916) and 1936 Brilliant proof and matte proof and 1937 brilliant proof and a cameo.





Richard S. Cooper
Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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04/13/2019 9:28 pm
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 Posted 04/14/2019  10:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Man-o-man those are some gorgeous Buff's. Thanks for sharing all those in one thread.
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