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1965 LMC- Unusal Heavy Die Deterioration On Lincoln`s Bust

 
 
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 Posted 04/12/2019  10:19 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Found this CRH today. I have never seen die deterioration going on like this on the bust of Lincoln. It`s almost like its pulling the bust to the rim. It weighs up 3.1 grams on the scale. Perfectly within mint tolerance. This is a case of heavy die deterioration right? Tthe first obverse picture below has me thinking it might be a collar issue, but I`m not really experienced in that area. Thanks for reading!

-CH27



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04/12/2019 10:20 pm
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 Posted 04/12/2019  11:43 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The die was pretty shot! Almost time for retirement! :)
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
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 Posted 04/12/2019  11:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's what I thought! Thanks E&V!

-CH27
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CoinHunter27, my profile picture shows a 1982 LMC with the absolute worst case of Die Deterioration that I've seen/know of. Not sure of I told you this or not, but here we go. It's a butt ugly cent! Probably the ugliest coin that you'll ever see! http://goccf.com/t/322204&whichpage=2#2746987
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
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Cool E&V! I've wondered why you have a 1982 as your profile pic for a while, but never remembered to ask! Now I know! Your coin looks like the Die should have been retired way long before that!

-CH27
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 Posted 04/13/2019  12:47 am  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you CoinHunter27! It was a such a thrill finding that! The U.S. Mint were being cheapskates and were pushing that die until nothing was left of it! The U.S. Mint at its finest. ;)
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
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 Posted 04/13/2019  01:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The mint does seem to be doing better about that now. Some of the early 50's wheats were pushed way far past retirement.

-CH27
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 Posted 04/13/2019  01:51 am  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Haha! The 1950's was pretty bad for that!
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
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 Posted 04/13/2019  09:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Keep in mind the spreading of the master hub (changed in 1969) and the very strong over polishing that happened at that time weakened the size of the devices and sub field reduction altered the dies.
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