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1969 S LMC Reverse Rim Die Clash

 
 
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 Posted 04/26/2019  3:19 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Daves Errors to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Got this coin from a OBW Roll of 1969 S Coins, Looks like a T/S/U Die Clash On the RIM.. And by the looks of it the S might have a lil Doubling . The letters are Inset on the rim.






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 Posted 04/26/2019  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like Post Strike Damage to me, because the metal is pushed up and displaced from the hit. And yes, this type of damage is possible, as long as it hits the right spot.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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 Posted 04/26/2019  4:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Daves Errors to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This coin came from a BANK ROLL of 50 1969 S BU coins. I opened the Roll myself and this one was in the roll. Its NOT a Circulated coin. How can it be post strike.?
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 Posted 04/26/2019  4:12 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know it came from OBW BU bankroll of cents. It's damage, because the letters are reversed, which they aren't supposed to be. I'm sorry to say, but it's been damaged.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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 Posted 04/26/2019  4:14 pm  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have seen a few of these. It's generally compression of another coin that presses the letters onto the rim and yes, I have found them in bank rolls. Odd, and I've even posted at least one such coin here myself, but I am convinced that it is all just a compression thing and has nothing to do with the minting process. Note that TRUST is impressed, and reversed (or is that mirrored?), sure signs of things happening after minting with the lettering coming from another coin post strike.
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 Posted 04/26/2019  4:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is possible for this to happen at the mint but it would have been after
the coin was ejected from the striking chamber.
The fact that the letters extend beyond the rim tells you it happened after
it was released from the collar.
It is only an error if it happens during the striking of the coin so sorry to say PMD
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 Posted 04/26/2019  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is where PMD and PSD come into play. It is PSD.
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 Posted 04/26/2019  4:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As others have said, these incuse, mirror-image letters are contact marks from another cent. The damage could have occurred inside or outside the Mint. But damage is damage, so it's not a minting error and it carries no value.
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