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Real Or Fake? 1793 Flowing Hair Chain Cent.

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 Posted 05/08/2019  6:27 pm  Show Profile   Check silverwolf's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Run Forest Run..
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 Posted 05/08/2019  6:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And the 1839 Half went through multiple time warps. Transported into the future to be graded by ANACS and then magically transported to end up in the vault 200 years ago while shedding its plastic holder (after all plastic wasn't invented at that time--nor was the New Orleans mint). I wonder what else the seller is pulling out of his....um....vault. I think the OP has enough info to decide whether to bid on the coin.
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05/08/2019 6:30 pm
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 Posted 05/08/2019  6:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andy Herkimer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I think the OP has enough info to decide whether to bid on the coin.


You are right, I am not bidding now regardless lol. But my question remains, real or fake? Do we have any chain specialists that can help?
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05/08/2019 8:04 pm
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 Posted 05/08/2019  6:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
But OP, the listing clearly states "A long-time collector volunteered his time to see that all coins are 100% Authentic guaranteed." How could you refute a statement like this from such a trustworthy seller?
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 Posted 05/08/2019  6:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add g048406 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe this will help you decide on the authenticity of the 1793.......'Big Al' attempted to sell another 1793 chain cent, on eBay, a couple of months ago. It was determined to be a counterfeit and was removed by eBay:

https://forums.collectors.com/discu...hain-on-ebay
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 Posted 05/08/2019  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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? He has over 1000 sales w/ a 99.6% Positive rating. Sounds pretty good to me.


A feedback rating of 99.6% with 11 neutrals and 4 negs In the last 12 months is NOT good!

You have to look at and READ the feedback to get a true picture of what is going on.
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 Posted 05/08/2019  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andy Herkimer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Almost certain at this point it's counterfeit. Pretty much figured it must be as P01 are selling for around $1500 so why would you try to sell one without grading it first. Probably the same fake they tried to sell before, just crudely ground down which would explain the uneven wear.
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 Posted 05/08/2019  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So grateful to that long-time collector who volunteered his time. What a champ.
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 Posted 05/08/2019  8:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andy Herkimer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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So grateful to that long-time collector who volunteered his time. What a champ.


I believe his name is Mr P.T. Barnum.
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 Posted 05/08/2019  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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So grateful to that long-time collector who volunteered his time.
I did some investigating, and was able to get a picture of his collection. Very impressive.


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 Posted 05/08/2019  9:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nails it.
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 Posted 05/08/2019  11:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If the safe was so enormous,how was it just discovered during a demolition?...Thanks to everyone who posted here,really great read and even better
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 Posted 05/09/2019  12:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TimNH to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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looks like Liberty lost some weight and got a new hairdo...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1795-Flowi...293079895846


So that 1795 dollar is also a counterfeit? Much like the chain set, I need one of those for my type set! Could you please explain how, I can't see the difference.
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 Posted 05/09/2019  02:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1962penny to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I believe his name is Mr P.T. Barnum.



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 Posted 05/09/2019  07:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Compare these photos TimNH.

https://www.PCGS.com/coinfacts/coin...-leaves/6853

Neither the hair ends nor the shape of Liberty's face below the chin match the eBay coin. Beyond that, the coin looks heavily cleaned and heat treated.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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