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1983 P Cent With "Bie" Die Chip, Retained Rim Cud, And Retained Idb On Rev!

 
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 Posted 07/12/2019  10:28 pm Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I found this in a circulated mixed roll, from a bank box of U.S. Pennies while CRH. I was so happy that I found this! It has 3 different errors all on one coin, which is unusual! Man, 1983 was definitely a problematic year for the U.S. Mint. Definitely a keeper and will have some added premium. This box I am going through is like getting boxes of chocolates during Christmas.






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Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
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 Posted 07/12/2019  10:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add levelsofmadnes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cool find Errers and Varietys,

Closely resembles LDB4-1983-002 4F+ on Coppercoins.com http://cuds-on-coins.com/ldb4-1983/

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 Posted 07/12/2019  10:57 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice! What are the 3? I see BIE, RIDB, and (Rim Cud?)
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 Posted 07/12/2019  10:57 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you levelofmadnes! Almost looks like a later die stage of LDB4-1983-002 4F+ on COC's.

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Very nice! What are the 3? I see BIE, RIDB, and (Rim Cud?)


All 2 guesses are correct, except for one. I have a Retained Rim Cud, on the rim.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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 Posted 07/12/2019  11:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Evan7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm intrigued by your knowledge! I wish I knew more about coins so I'd be able to determine what I have!
Very cool find!

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 Posted 07/12/2019  11:19 pm  Show Profile   Check DrDon's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add DrDon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Super nice coin. All the RIDB I've found on the reverse of 1983s have been on the other side of the memorial.
Way to gotough guy.
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 Posted 07/12/2019  11:27 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Rookie2018 and DrDon! Rookie2018, don't feel too bad. I used to be there at one point. At least the other members including me are helping you learn. Education is key to success!

DrDon, this is indeed a very beautiful coin. Might grade around high AU to lower MS (Mint State) grade. A perfect coin.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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 Posted 07/12/2019  11:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Super cool cent...
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 Posted 07/13/2019  12:00 am  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Greasy Fingers!
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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 Posted 07/13/2019  05:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Retained Rim Cud, on the rim.

Never heard of that,can you please post a link for more info on it.
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 Posted 07/13/2019  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wowzers! That's quite the find.

It's interesting that the obverse die looks like MDS or possibly EMDS. It chipped quickly.
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 Posted 07/13/2019  11:55 am  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you fortcollins! It's one heck of a craxy coin! That die fell apart early.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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 Posted 07/13/2019  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Almost looks like a rim cud as well on that area?
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Yes Coop, that's a Rim Cud, on the rim. It's very interesting too. It's actually retained, so could I call it a Retained Rim Cud?
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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 Posted 07/13/2019  1:59 pm  Show Profile   Check XavierOfGreen's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add XavierOfGreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thats a very nice find indeed!
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Thank you XavierOfGreen! I also found a second 2000 Wide AM cent, from the same exact box. I'll post it in a bit.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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