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1878-S Morgan Dollar Possible Long Nock

 
 
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 Posted 07/17/2019  7:29 pm Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
What say you. I can't find a matching VAM for it so probably no chance.
My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
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 Posted 07/17/2019  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The reverse is showing the wrong arrow feathers these are slanted, not the 1878-S reverse of B1 (parallel arrow feathers) . Have you checked the edge for a seam? If the coin is really dated 1878-S? This is a Hub Type C reverse.
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 Posted 07/17/2019  9:04 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@westcoin, graded and encapsulated AU-58 Details Cleaned by ICG
My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
ANA id: 3194067
My Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq...ukyxurAHKuRg
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 Posted 07/17/2019  9:11 pm  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can we get full obverse and reverse photos? This is strange as far as I know all 1878-S have the B1 or B2 reverse none have a C reverse.
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 Posted 07/17/2019  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here ya go

My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
ANA id: 3194067
My Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq...ukyxurAHKuRg
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 Posted 07/17/2019  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How about a photo of the label? I'm on ICG website and I can't find any "Long Nock" in AU they show an AG, VG, and a VF graded no AU without a VAM # being listed as well. This is strange. ICG's site is only just slightly worse than ANACS when looking up coin in their pop.

ICG may not show details coins at all I can't find that info either.

I'd like to check the cert number on their website, hence why I want to see the label. Or at least the cert # would be good enough.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013!
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07/17/2019 9:42 pm
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 Posted 07/17/2019  9:48 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's unattributed
My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
ANA id: 3194067
My Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq...ukyxurAHKuRg
If you want to buy something or sell something or just talk, shoot me a PM!
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 Posted 07/17/2019  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Need the cert # it must be on the reverse. Unattributed so that explains why there isn't a "long nock" in AU on the pop page. They still may not have a DB showing detail coins.
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Edited by westcoin
07/17/2019 9:55 pm
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 Posted 07/17/2019  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here
My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
ANA id: 3194067
My Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq...ukyxurAHKuRg
If you want to buy something or sell something or just talk, shoot me a PM!
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 Posted 07/17/2019  10:04 pm  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The ICG cert verification is showing this coin as an 1879-S AU55 (no details). Any chance the slab has been tampered with? This isn't the coin assigned to that certification number at all, completely different date.

My guess is a fake Chinese coin was inserted or the whole thing is faked, sorry to say. I'd be on the phone with them in the morning first thing.

Where did you get this coin/slab?
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013!
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See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440
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 Posted 07/17/2019  10:06 pm  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the Cert Verification link to this cert number https://www.icgcoin.com/load_SNSear...n=3225030201
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013!
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See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440
Edited by westcoin
07/17/2019 10:07 pm
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 Posted 07/17/2019  10:28 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It isn't mine yet. I've been working with seller photos. Glad to see I dodged a bullet.
My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
ANA id: 3194067
My Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq...ukyxurAHKuRg
If you want to buy something or sell something or just talk, shoot me a PM!
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 Posted 07/18/2019  12:48 am  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep thankfully I was able to help before you got burned. Where did you find this "deal" if you don't mind me
asking?

Is the seller representing it as a long arrow nock?
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013!
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 Posted 07/18/2019  06:30 am  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No they aren't and it's a non-ebay auction house. The site can be a bit dodgy with fakes, but you can get good deals and nice cherrypicks with patience.
My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
ANA id: 3194067
My Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq...ukyxurAHKuRg
If you want to buy something or sell something or just talk, shoot me a PM!
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 Posted 07/18/2019  2:22 pm  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
POssibly mixed up photos that were posted, the obverse and reverse don't quite match up either, contact them to see if a mistake was made in posting the images perhaps, but I'd be wary of dealing with any company that has fakes regularly posted at all. I could see one getting through, but if there is a pattern of fakes being listed then the whole company is bad period.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013!
ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1982, EAC Member #6202, NBS Member, 2 variety collector.

See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440
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