Coin Community Family of Web Sites
Like us on Facebook! Subscribe to our Youtube Channel! Check out our Twitter! Check out our Pinterest!
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

Welcome Guest! Need help? Got a question? Inherit some coins?
Our coin forum is completely free! Register Now!

Shows Us Those Overgraded Slabs From Major Companies

 
Previous Page
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous Topic Topic Next Topic
Page: of 3
Bedrock of the Community
United States
12467 Posts
 Posted 09/13/2019  10:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Here is one on eBay now and alongside it the picture from the PCGS grading guide of what VF35 should look like..


That's not how it works. The 37 d in the "what it should look like" picture is one of the best made dates of the series. Thew picture is too poor to tell but many buffalos especially early branch mint issues had striking issues. The picture is washing it out some as well, but date and mint marks matter.


Quote:
Both of these are graded VF-30! Which would you rather have?


The first one from PCGS. That one is actually an attractive coin while the other one was netted down for being cleaned
Valued Member
Canada
496 Posts
 Posted 09/14/2019  10:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin-Flipper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The new portrait of a vf 20

Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
United States
2585 Posts
 Posted 09/15/2019  08:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, coin-flipper! You win the prize for the most out-of-whack photo proof. 20 must a popular number to remember off the top of the grader's head. Overgrading has become a real problem.
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
United States
900 Posts
 Posted 09/22/2019  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Newfoundland fishscale. MS-64? Seriously?


Bedrock of the Community
United States
12467 Posts
 Posted 09/22/2019  5:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
enlarged picture is an old terrible secure plus scan impossible to judge from those hence they got rid of them
Valued Member
United States
187 Posts
 Posted 09/22/2019  6:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
That's not how it works. The 37 d in the "what it should look like" picture is one of the best made dates of the series. Thew picture is too poor to tell but many buffalos especially early branch mint issues had striking issues. The picture is washing it out some as well, but date and mint marks matter.


I don't agree with this when it comes to grading. Maybe on mint state coins you could say MS-63 weak strike or MS-64 full feathers. But To give a circulated coin a higher grade just because some of the coins of that year were weakly struck doesn't wash. How would you know if the condition on a circulated coin was due to wear or poor strike. They would both look worn.

Not all 25-D nickles are weak strikes. I like this F 12 better than the VF shown above. And the wowser shows some were struck just fine.

I see some dealers grading stuff as excellent shape "for its age"! In other words not so hot.


Pillar of the Community
United States
4224 Posts
 Posted 09/22/2019  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I like this F 12 better than the VF shown above.

I think it's F-12.
No tip on the horn and by ANA standards the highest it can be is F-12.

As for the "VF shown above", the images are so bad I can't tell.
Describe it as if there were no picture.
Picture it as if there were no description.
Bedrock of the Community
United States
12467 Posts
 Posted 09/22/2019  8:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I don't agree with this when it comes to grading.


Everyone is certainly free to use their own standards, but that is how it's done. Date and MM matter when it comes to grading which is why you can't compare the highest quality date to a lower quality one grade for grade.

By all means everyone should buy how they want, but just because collecting as a whole doesn't follow someones personal standard doesn't mean they are overgrading


Quote:
Not all 25-D nickles are weak strikes.


Absolutely, and the nice ones that aren't command premium prices.


Quote:
No tip on the horn and by ANA standards the highest it can be is F-12.


Going by just the horn or having a single design feature be a hard limiting factor was the old way of grading many decades ago and hasn't been how it's done for several decades now.
Page: of 3 Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.

Coin Community Member eBay Sales

Certified Coins   Certified VAMs   Certified Errors  




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2019 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2019 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.58 seconds to rattle this change. Powered By: Snitz Forums 2000 Version 3.4.05