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1889 P Morgan Dollar - VAM Question

 
 
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 Posted 08/06/2019  12:31 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add dbrablec to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
i am very new to Morgan dollars, and VAM designation. I recently purchased two morgans from a local pawn shop.

i ave been trying to identify any VAM designation.

can any tell if this 1889P - could be VAM-7 high 9.

i can try for better pictures - if anyone is interested.

thanks.



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 Posted 08/06/2019  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like a far date position. A close-up image of the date and the ear (any doubling?) would be helpful.

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 Posted 08/06/2019  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dbrablec to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you.
I might have time tomorrow to get more images.
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 Posted 08/06/2019  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Would you be willing to post high resolution closeup photos of the areas I have circled below? Thank you!


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08/06/2019 9:03 pm
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 Posted 08/06/2019  9:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dbrablec to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sure ... but I can not until tomorrow
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photos added..
i hope these are acceptable..
thank you...






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I might be able to help out with a close up of the date and the ear.
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Thank you.
I will try to do that by tomorrow.
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 Posted 08/08/2019  10:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The first thing I saw in the original photos was an apparent clash mark on the obverse, just to the left of Liberty's neck.

The later photos show a clashed "N" from IN in front of Liberty's neck. The clash is partial and weak. There is also a weak die crack from the first left star through the truncation of Liberty's neck to the point of the "1" in the date. There is no die break on the eagle's left wing (our visual right). There are weak clash marks in the cotton blossoms and branch clutched in the eagle's right talon (our visual left).

My gut tells me this may be 1889 P VAM-19B1.
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Attributing 1889-P begins with the date position and the ear doubling (or absence thereof). Let's confirm the date position and go from there.
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 Posted 08/13/2019  5:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dbrablec to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
wow...thanks for the insights...

i haven't had time to try for better images...

i will add the suggesting images as soon as I have time....

thank you...
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close up image of the dataed and ear added....
thanks for helping...


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You have a far date position with doubling in the ear and possibly on the ear lobe similar to VAM-21. I'm not convinced it is a 21 however. Check the listings that run from VAM-3 to VAM-61 on the attached link. http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.c...89-P_Obverse(Far Date w/Doubled Ear)
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