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US Mint New Listing On Schedule For A 2019 Enhanced Reverse Proof American Silver Eagle

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 Posted 01/24/2020  2:26 pm  Show Profile   Check omxfl's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add omxfl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Doubt it. It's probably shipments that were returned for a variety of reasons - a couple of pages back you'll find one such (sad) story.
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 Posted 01/24/2020  6:13 pm  Show Profile   Check dave92029's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add dave92029 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
NGC grades

Total. 11071. 78.7%.
70. 8715. 78.7%. 29.3% of total issued
69. 2340 21.1%. 7.9% of total issued
Other. .2%

Total of 13,211 proof 70. 44.5% ( NGC +PCGS) of all coins issued!
All the hype got a good portion of the total issued graded.

How do you think this will effect long term value? Are there that many ASE collectors willing to continue to spend $2000 on these proof 70 coins?

The NGC price guide indicates that the 2019w in proof 70 condition is worth $125, and that includes the Canadian version ( total of less than 10,000 issued) with individual serial numbers. NGC only graded 3,241 of the Canadian sets.
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 Posted 01/24/2020  6:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can get the Pride of Two Nations for $160, so the maple leaf isn't worth much if the W ERP is worth $125.
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 Posted 01/24/2020  6:32 pm  Show Profile   Check dave92029's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add dave92029 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The maple in the Pride of 2 Nations is a very beautiful coin...but it is still only One oz. of silver,

$35 for the maple is still 2x spot. The 2019 s in proof 70 grade is more than 111x spot.

Humm which is Over valued and which is Undervalued. Individual evaluation.
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 Posted 01/24/2020  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I only paid $70 for the S ERP, I thought that was over valued but what with what they sell for I may have to reconsider
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 Posted 01/24/2020  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Check Foxwoods Man's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Foxwoods Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The maple in the Pride of 2 Nations is a very beautiful coin...but it is still only One oz. of silver,

$35 for the maple is still 2x spot. The 2019 s in proof 70 grade is more than 111x spot.


I just think valuing collector coins by their metallic content value is just lame...and uninformed

Bullion is bullion and value is based on metallic content..

.collector coins are collector coins and value is based on mintage and demand

A 1995-W proof ASE might be worth a tad more than 18 bucks...(my opinion)
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 Posted 01/27/2020  2:02 pm  Show Profile   Check omxfl's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add omxfl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
CoA #84 (PF70) sold for $7,200 yesterday:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/193310303573

I wonder to what extent the grade matters on those with CoA #1-100.
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 Posted 01/27/2020  2:14 pm  Show Profile   Check Foxwoods Man's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Foxwoods Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it interesting that Pinehurst is successfully selling just the packaging (no coin) for 99 bucks. That's like a 50% profit without the coin!
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 Posted 01/27/2020  2:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's crazy. My LCS gave them to me for free. I'm seeing people putting other coins in the packaging and selling it. A little questionable.
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 Posted 01/27/2020  2:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I wonder to what extent the grade matters on those with CoA #1-100.


Couple grand probably. A signed 69 is still almost certainly going to sell for more than an unsigned 70
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 Posted 01/27/2020  3:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bret to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I'm seeing people putting other coins in the packaging and selling it. A little questionable.

I think there's nothing questionable at all. It's fraud.
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 Posted 01/27/2020  3:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's only fraud if they're being sold as the coin that should have been in there. If they're advertising it for exactly what it is, it's weird but not fraud.
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 Posted 01/27/2020  3:41 pm  Show Profile   Check Foxwoods Man's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Foxwoods Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yup...if a 69 or lower sells for less than an OGP.....VOILA! Situation solved....but 99 bucks is a bit steep
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 Posted 01/27/2020  3:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not saying it's fraud as nowhere does it say it's an S ERP. I'm concerned that some one will put in a W ERP and some unsuspecting person buys it for like $500 assuming it's a low priced S ERP.
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 Posted 01/27/2020  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I mean you could advertise it as " Own a limited edition Enhanced Reverse Proof, these are sold out by the mint. Comes in a limited edition case, only 30000 of the cases were released".

You haven't lied but you sure blurred the picture.
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