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Unidentified Small Greek Ae With Female Portrait And Four-legged Animal

 
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Russian Federation
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 Posted 12/06/2019  9:39 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Yet another bargain bin find from last Thursday (November 28th).
I don't hold that much hope for this coin, but I've seen Greek coins identified here from even less detail...

(I'm considering posting another coin from the same bin that will be even more hopeless. At least for this one there's a reasonable chance.)



Side 1: female portrait (deity?) right
Side 2: four-legged animal (possibly horse) standing or walking right
12x11 mm, 1.3 grams

Any idea what this could probably be?

I originally described the animal as "ungulate" (i.e. horse, donkey, or goat), but later decided that for all I know it could be a dog. Definitely four-legged, though.
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 Posted 12/06/2019  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bob L to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, among the coins that match in terms of imagery may be some AE's of Paros. My first thought is "goat" for the reverse. I like the Paros' Demeter profiles in relation to the bust on yours.

However you'd have to find a denominational/size match with right facing goats.

Here's a decent match-up in terms of shapes, imo:
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=101711

But the size is wrong.

Here's a decent match-up in terms of size, but the goat is facing the wrong way:
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=399266

I haven't looked extensively...maybe there's a Paros issue that matches on both accounts?

On the other hand: is that possibly an "A" or delta in the reverse right field? Is there a legend there? That might throw a wrench in the Paros idea...


Was just about to hit "Post New Reply" when I spotted a size and goat-orientation match from Paros:
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=760011

Still don't know about that possible legend though...
Edited by Bob L
12/06/2019 10:21 pm
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 Posted 12/07/2019  12:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bob L to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Zeleia might be another contender, assuming (1) the flat shape at the top of the obverse head might be a stephane, and (2) that the animal might be a stag. Some of these match up size-wise, I think.

https://www.acsearch.info/search.ht...usd&company=

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 Posted 12/07/2019  07:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
...Huh. The Paros portraits are significantly off in terms of the back side (the bun is far too large), while the Zeleia portraits are spot on both in the front and in the back (which is a very good sign).

There's a line (visible at the top of the second pic) that can be the antler of a stag; I can't see any evidence of the Λ under the stag, though (and the rest of the legend is too far gone to disambiguate between Zeleia and Paros).

I note that the Zeleia examples all weigh much more than 1.3 grams, but I'm not sure if that's a significant difference. There's probably loads of corrosion loss on my example, anyway.
Also, on the Zeleia coins, the back legs are parallel, but on my coin they are very much not. Again, not sure how significant that is.

I guess for now Zeleia looks like the most plausible option? Please mention if you think of something that fits even better.
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