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How Far Back Can We Go? Sixth Edition!

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1820 -- United Kingdom, 1 sovereign:



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1820 -- United States, 10 cents:



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1820 Large Cents, Newcomb N-9 (R3, large date) and N-15 (R2, small date)





1820 Large Cent, Newcomb N-6 (R4, small date, scarce)


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1820 Capped Bust Dime (JR-9, R4, Large "0")

The photo says "Small 0" by mistake but I haven't been bothered to go fix it yet.

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And now for something completely different!

Spain - 1820-M GJ - 2 Reales - Ferdinand VII

Some wear/scratches and an old cleaning but overall a decent coin.


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 Posted 08/08/2020  01:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Princetane to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My 1820 coin introduces another British king to the line up. This one ruled an incredible 59.2 years and stands as the longest ruling King in British history (3rd overall as Victoria (63.5years) and Elizabeth II (68.5 years and counting) are obviously both women)





I got this shilling in a lot of collection coins, and paid about $2 for it. It was very darkened and looked burned, but underneath could see this coin has almost no wear at all. It is basically EF, some negative norahs might say gVF, but its streets above any coin I have of this era.

George III (4 June 1738 - 29 January 1820) was King of Great Britain and the United Kingdom from 1760 to 1820 (1801 UK).

George was born to Frederick Lewis (1707 - 1751) and Augusta, and was the 2nd child, an elder sister being born in 1737. His father was the son of King George II (1683 - 1760) and relations were poor. His father was a wastrel and a gambler and died of Lung complications aged just 44. This made the 13 year old Prince next in line for the throne. His older sister had already been married off.

George was a shy and quiet child and eager to do well, of average to above average intelligence he spoke multiple languages played instruments well and was interested in global affairs. He was also popular as unlike his father and ancestors, was born in the UK and spoke English as his first language - not German and was a plus at the time.

George II died on the loo on October 25th 1760 and George III was new king and he was known for the first few years of reign being fairly good despite some governmental changes and vacillating between Whigs and Tories. America started to be a thorn in his side, but as late as 1770 he was popular there too.

In 1761, he married Princess Charlotte of a German duchy and she became the queen, The marriage was a long and loving one and she gave birth to 15(!) children, 9 survived to adulthood. The death of his brother Edward in 1767 meant his oldest son George was the heir to the throne, and at least 3 more spares were lined up!


- From - History.com

The American war dragged on until 1783 when the colonies became independent, but Britain added Australia and the new country of New Zealand to its empire along with several Caribbean Islands in the Napoleonic era.

George's reign was characterised by almost non stop wars and campaigns and a lasting peace only arrived in 1815 near the end. However arts and commerce flourished in this era, the Agricultural and Industrial Revolutions were in full swing. Cook, Bligh, Vancouver and Flinders amongst others discovered new colonies and places for the Empire. The later 18th century and early 19th century saw some people become very wealthy - but also grew a underclass of industrial workers, vagrants and intinerant people, convicts were shipped out to America and then Australia.

His children also gave him grief with both Prince George and William having broods of children with Catholic mistresses and many of his younger beloved children dying prematurely. George also suffered bouts of madness, most notably in 1788/89, 1800, 1806 and finally 1811 to his death. The Prince regent was a particular thorn in his side with his gluttony, huge debts, rakishness and mistresses along with his designs to overthrow dear old dad finally succumbed in 1811 when the Regent ruled for his father who spent his last ten years at Windsor looking like Rumpelstiltskin (The long bearded portraits)

Despite the rumours, he did pass the Royal Marriages act of 1770 - not over his children, who were juveniles at the time but for his brothers and sisters who had a taste for commoners and Roman Catholics. The rules had to bent for Meghan Markle (A Black American commoner) and Diana (A commoner being only of the gentry - not nobility) - that went well!




George was a popular king most of his reign, he always meant well and was often served poorly by some of his ministers and advisers like the Earl of Bute, Lord, William Pitt and Henry Addington amongst others. George has generally been judged harshly by his critics as England was a changing society then, the king's madness was probably down to Porphyia and arsenic from his wigs he wore. the King did not adopt the natural hair look until his 70s and kept up the Georgian wigg craze all his life.

He was known for his casual attitude and mercy given to people who tried to kill him "This poor wretch has not harmed me, so why should I harm her". George would also walk up to farmers and discuss his knowledge on Agricultural improvement or to mechanics wondering how this steam powered machine works and the like. George also went bathing in the sea and started really the whole British seaside craze.

George was also overshadowed by his inept successors and should be judged more favourably in history.
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Coinage in the era of King George III

Unlike other reigns, the coinage of this era is described as erratic at best, most of the regular issuing dates from the 1816 - 1820 period when the coinage was reformed and issued regularly and this was at the time of the Prince regent.

In the 1760s and 1770s, gold was very regularly issued and in 1761 a full set of gold from 5 guineas to half was issued, after that coins came out every few years until about 1780. From 1780 to around 1810, it was mostly Guineas and their fractions including 1/3 guineas (7 shillings).
After 1816, the new coinage of Sovereigns (21 shillings) were issued. Post 1815 coinage was all steam made and all pre 1800 coins were milled.

The silver coinage of the era was very erratic. No crown or halfcrowns were issued at all until 1816 (The last issues being in 1751). Shillings were issued in 1763 (Nothumberland shillings - rare), 1787 (Common), 1798 (Dorien Magens rare) and regularly from 1816 to 1820. Sixpences were only issued in 1787 and from 1816 to 1820. Maundy coins were issued on average every 3 or 4 years.

There was counterstruck Spanish dollars in 1798 and 1804 and a Bank of England silver dollar in 1804, along with 9d, 18d and 3/- Bank Tokens made in the 1811 - 1814 period, these were steam press made like post 1815 coinage.

Copper was more regular with copper halfpence issued regualrly in the 1770s and then in 1797 an issue of Cartwheel 2d and 1d at the Soho Mint, in 1799 and 1806.07 Cartwheel style Farthings and Halfpence were issued. In 1817 regular coinage began again, but copper was less regular than silver or gold.

Bewigged and long haired portraits of the young king dominated on 18th century pieces. The laureated short hair portraits were on post 1810 stuff. Coins dated 1816 and 1817 had a bull head portrait, which the King disliked intensely and it was changed. From 1817 a skinnier portrait of the King dominated. Some 1820 dated Halfcrowns have King George IV on them. The later coins were mainly G4 inspired designs and the portrait of the 78 year old king is not very relaistic, he looks about 50!


Cartwheel portrait - long haired (1797)


- Bull head portrait - 1816

For example of last portrait, see my coin above in the last post.

Sadly I don't have any early portraits of him yet.

The most interesting coins of this reign though are tokens - these include political tokens from Canada and America, and also the conders (1787 - 1796) issued in the UK to alleviate a coin shortage showing various people, industries, stores and commercial stuff. These were mostly copper but tokens up to one shilling exist and there was a second period of these between 1811 and 1815 and these are all popular. Colonial copper halfpence and farthings were also issued for Ireland (Harp) and Isle of Mann (Legs symbol) as well.
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Lovely coins everyone!
Thanks for the great historical summary, Princetane!

My 1820 shilling can't compare with your lovely specimen!

1820 Crown of George III:

Changeover year - 1820 halfcrown with portrait of George IV:

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Yes but your other coins can!

I love that crown and how someone has initialled it on the King's cheek (Oh the cheek of them!).
Plus you can illustrate what I am talking about, an 1820 George IV halfcrown - a rare case in which coins of the new king are issued before his coronation.

Also I noticed the date 1820 on the crown and shillings seems to look like every digit was added in a separate font and engraver, they look different and uneven!
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1820 half dollar--

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1820 UK.
1 Shilling - George III New coinage.


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St. Helena halfpenny




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Glad to see some holed and battered contributions this year. I don't know exactly how this coin entered my collection, but it was in a small box along with some other worn-to-death European coppers when I ran across it a few months ago.
Gibraltar 2 quartos 1820.


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Pepa, LOVE the cent and dime!!


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