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How Far Back Can We Go? Sixth Edition!

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 Posted 09/18/2020  04:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Princetane to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am a wee bit loathe to show my Maria Theresa thaler, as its a bulk silver one and has one of the biggest holes I have ever seen




Its more like a Maria Theresa 90 cents coin


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 Posted 09/18/2020  06:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pepactonius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1779 -- Kingdom of France, 6 sols:



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 Posted 09/18/2020  06:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add erafjel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is a rather interesting coin, pepactonius. It has the effigy of Louis XV, not of Louis XVI who succeeded him in 1774! Apparently an acute shortage of small denominations, with not enough time to let the engravers make new dies, led to this extraordinary issue in 1779 only. 6 sols coins with Louis XVI were issued in 1782.
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 Posted 09/18/2020  08:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@erafjel, thanks for yet another interesting piece of numismatic history.

For 1779 I have this copper Poland 1 groszy coin minted in Warsaw,same series as some 1780s contributions from @spence.

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 Posted 09/18/2020  4:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice one @tdz! I think that I've got a similar one to post tomorrow.

In the meantime, here is a 2 Stuiver from the Netherlands State of West Freisland dated 1779 AD:


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1778 -- Kingdom of Portugal and the Algarves, 5 reis:



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 Posted 09/18/2020  9:46 pm  Show Profile   Check paralyse's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My only entry for 1779 is this 1779-dated 2 Stuivers from West Friesland (Netherlands)


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For 1778, some Swedish silver, a 1/24 Riksdaler.

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As promised, here is another Polish Grosz:


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1777 -- Duchy of Milan, 1/2 soldo:



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 Posted 09/20/2020  03:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add erafjel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sweden 1777, Gustav III, 1 riksdaler / 3 daler silvermynt. Silver 878/1000, 29.2 g, 41.6 mm.



In 1777, Sweden replaced the copper standard with a silver standard. The riksdaler ("National Dollar") became the new principal currency unit. It equalled 3 daler silvermynt ("Dollar Silver Coin") of the old currency unit. Both new and old units were stated on the riksdaler coins 1775-77.

At this time Sweden was an absolute monarchy with Gustav III as autocratic ruler. He considered himself an enlightened despot and kept himself informed about the cultural and political development. The American War of Independence apparently interested and fascinated him. In 1776 he wrote in a letter to a friend:
"It is such an interesting drama to see a state that creates itself, that I - if I were not now who I am - would go to America to closely follow all phases of the new republic's creation. [ . . . ] I can't help but admire their courage and lively love their boldness."

Sweden was the sixth country to recognize the United States of America, in 1783.

One would perhaps think that as an absolute monarch, he would have objections to a nation trying to get rid of royal suppression. One factor was probably Sweden's close relation with France, an ally since the 17th century. That kind of automatically placed Sweden in opposition to Great Britain, as France and king Louis XVI supported the colonies.

This coin has an edge inscription that says MANIBUS NE LAEDAR AVARIS - May I Not Be Harmed By Greedy Hands. Filing and clipping of silver coins was a popular sideline...


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 Posted 09/20/2020  05:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Princetane to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful coin and a great history there, I wonder what the King would have made of his Danish brother across the water whose experiment with Liberalism had failed and seen the embarassing exit of his wife and the German interloper Struensee.
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Here is a 1/2 Kreuzer from the German State of Pfalz-Sulzbach dated 1777 AD:



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And here is a Kreuzer from The German City State of Frankfurt am Main:


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