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How Far Back Can We Go? Sixth Edition!

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 Posted 02/21/2021  08:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
More Siggy from me for today, but this is only a 3 Groshen:


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 Posted 02/21/2021  09:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add keith12 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I'm curious what grade yours has?

My coin is graded AU-55. Your coin is is much better then that
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 Posted 02/21/2021  09:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, @keith. I got that coin from one of @spence's favorite dealers about 20 years ago (also the 1624 ort a few years later).


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only a 3 Groshen

Looks like a pretty attractive patina, unusual for this type.
We've now got the 4 largest silver denominations (@jgenn's thaler, then 18, 6 and 3 groschen). I'm a bit surprised we haven't seen a Lithuanian 1 groschen yet (pretty sure @giedrius has one, but looks like he is sitting out this round). I bet we will see 3 more Polish denominations by the time we hit 1620.
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 Posted 02/21/2021  11:24 am  Show Profile   Check paralyse's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have several of these little coins from 1623-1625 but this is my favorite of the lot with one side double-struck.



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 Posted 02/21/2021  12:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
... the next (smaller) denomination.
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 Posted 02/22/2021  07:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Clean sweep for Poland yesterday (4 out of 4)

1622 Poland 18 groschen (ort) Bydgoszcz mint


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 Posted 02/22/2021  11:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not Polish, but I wanted to post this anyway...



Bohemia, Ferdinand II, uniface 1/4 kreuzer, 1622 (the date is just visible at 11h).
KM 280, Numista 104706 (my coin is apparently still the only example there).
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 Posted 02/22/2021  11:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cool coin! And it looks like yours might have broken the die (or pretty close)?
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 Posted 02/22/2021  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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And it looks like yours might have broken the die (or pretty close)?
that die probably didn't last much longer!

This type belongs to the so-called "Kipper" series of debased coinage (caused by the economic troubles of the ongoing Thirty Years' War... only about five years in at the time). Krause describes it as silver, but all the examples I've seen (online, aside from my coin) are at best low-quality billon, and probably just plain copper. I suspect that quality control wasn't very good in those days either.
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 Posted 02/22/2021  2:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EddieDiz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1622 K-B Hungarian Denar under Gabor Bethlen,Prince of Transylvania and uncrowned King Of Hungary.


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 Posted 02/22/2021  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is my Polish 3 Polker dated 1622 AD and minted in Bydgoszcz:


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 Posted 02/22/2021  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Arkie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Zurich batzen


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 Posted 02/23/2021  02:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add erafjel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's been a while since we had some royal French:

France 1621/0, double tournois, Paris (A).

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 Posted 02/23/2021  07:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice variety over the last 24 hrs!

1621 Poland 18 groschen, Bydgoszcz mint. Smaller denominations tomorrow.

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1621 A-I Hungarian Denar under Gabor Bethlen,Prince of Transylvania and uncrowned King of Hungary.




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