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How Far Back Can We Go? Sixth Edition! We Need - 1460 C. E. (A. H. 864) -

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 Posted 07/04/2022  07:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a Kreutzer from the Austrian Duchy of Wiener Neustadt that is dated 1471 AD. It is a weak strike, but fortunately the date is quite clear 9 to 12 o'clock on the rev. I have attributed it as Levinson IV-24 and Szego 2L51.


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 Posted 07/04/2022  1:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! Nice clear date.

This undated quattrino of the Duchy of Ferrara is dateable to 1471. Borso d'Este became the Marquis of Ferrara in 1450. In 1471 Ferrara was elevated to the status of a duchy, and Borso died later the same year. So Ferrara coins which bear the inscritiption BORSIVS DVX could only have been struck in 1471 (his earlier coins bore the inscription BORSIVS MARChIO). MIR 245, Numista#281283
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If we are lucky I have just one more coin before our anticipated "stall" at 1460.

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 Posted 07/06/2022  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Seems like we are ready to drop back to the year 1470 AD. Here is another Kreuzer from Wiener Neustadt. It isn't in as good condition as mine from the previous year, but you should be able to make out the inscription MON NOV CIV 1&^0 on the reverse.



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 Posted 07/08/2022  12:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EddieDiz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These are all undated Hungarian Denars under King Matthias Corvinus that can be attributed to 1470.


n-hammers mint mark with points in the legend;Huszar 717,Unger 562m,Pohl 216-13.





n-hammers mint mark with circle in legend to the right of "M" instead of points;Huszar 717,Unger 562m,Pohl 216-13.



n-hammers mint mark and Madonna has no stole in this variation;Huszar 717,Unger 562m,Pohl 216-13.




n-hammers mint mark with numerous errors in the legend;Huszar 717,Unger 562m,Pohl 216-13.





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Ok yep I can post my coin dated 1469 AD tomorrow.
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Here is a Horngroschen from the German Duchy of Saxony that is dated 1469 AD. It was minted in Leipzig and the two-digit date is somewhat visible on the reverse. I have attributed it as Levinson I-127.


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 Posted 07/09/2022  1:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EddieDiz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These are undated Hungarian Denars under King Matthias Corvinus that can be attributed to 1469.


B-cross/horseshoe mint mark;Huszar 717,Unger 562e,Pohl 216-5,Rethy II235A.






K-shield mint mark;Huszar 717,Unger 562i,Pohl 216-9.





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 Posted 07/11/2022  12:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No stopping now, Spence! I know some people who are anxious for a seventh edition.
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Ok yep. This Horngroschen is dated 1468 and was minted in Freiburg. I have attributed it as Levinson I-119. Interestingly, the two digit date is incorporated into the obv legend.



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 Posted 07/12/2022  12:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EddieDiz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All of these are undated Hungarian Denars under King Matthias Corvinus that can be attributed to 1468.


1468 B-S,Huszar 717,Unger 562d,Pohl 126-4,Rethy II235A.








1468 h-T,Huszar 717,Unger 562g,Pohl 216-7,Rethy II235A.




1468 K-K/Shield,Huszar 717,Unger 562h,Rethy II235A,Pohl 193-1.





1468 n-cross/horseshoe,Huszar 717,Unger 562n,Pohl 216-14,Rethy II235A.







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I'm really glad you are helping @ed! These are great additions to the thread.
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