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1815 25c Capped Bust Quarter #2

 
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 Posted 01/10/2020  08:47 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
$142. This issue had a small mintage of 89,235 coins interrupted by a fire at the US Mint in January 1816. Mintage of quarters would not resume until 1818. Thoughts? Thanks!


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 Posted 01/10/2020  08:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KYCopperCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The wear seems quite uneven to me. Coin is possibly bent? The obverse hair and face details are still there but the rest has heavy wear, but on the reverse has opposite wear.
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 Posted 01/10/2020  09:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Photos are a bit blurry but I think it'll make G-04.
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 Posted 01/10/2020  09:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Could be bent for sure. Otherwise, agree G-04, but possibly cleaned?
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 Posted 01/10/2020  12:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpbone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ugly. Details.
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With some color correction of overexposed images.


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 Posted 01/10/2020  12:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm going to get beat up on this one.

this one is an enigma to me. the details of the eye, mouth, hair, date and especially nose are saying VF20 range. to me this coin appears to be very weakly struck on both sides, however when looking at the coin overall the wear appears to be extensive. maybe it has something to do with what was going on at the mint at that time. confused as to actual grade...
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As others have pointed out, the coin displays a very unsual, uneven wear pattern. Strange color, and to be honest, not an appealing coin.

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 Posted 01/10/2020  2:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
An interesting anecdote tied to this coin is that during this time, silver coins were minted at the request of silver depositors. Mintage figures indicate that the quarter was not a popular denomination for coinage.

According to Mint records, in 1815, the Planters Bank of New Orleans deposited $15,000 in silver bullion at the Mint and requested all of it to be returned in quarters. This would have filled 60,000 of the 89,235 coins produced.

The Planters Bank of New Orleans is well known to numismatists to have counterstamped coins and many 1815 quarters are found with a single letter countermark.
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Steve Tompkins in his Early Quarters reference book includes correspondence between Bailly Blanchard of the Planters Bank of New Orleans and Robert Patterson, then the U.S. Mint Director. In the correspondence Blanchard pleads for the return of the bullion in coined quarters and Patterson eventually acquiesces to the request. Apparently there were no quarter dies on hand in 1815 and Patterson commissions the production of the one die pair known (B-1). Thus, it appears that but for Blanchard's pleadings, we may not have had a quarter minted in 1815.

The issue still stands as an island in the period between 1807 and 1818 as the War of 1812 and the Napoleonic Wars were winding down.
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coin showed up swirls from harsh cleaning. returned it and seller didn't object. disappointed.


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wow, they sure didn't show up in any of your photos. definitely a details coin
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