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Please Help Me Grade This 1919 50 Centimes France

 
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 Posted 01/19/2020  8:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pertinax to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good Fine. As 1919 is the most common date in the series, it's probably only worth silver value in this condition.
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 Posted 01/19/2020  11:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll say AU-53 (Sheldon).
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Interesting range of opinions.

I compared to this: https://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotv...4fff128239b8

Some of the detail in the vestments over the left shoulder and left thigh are gone, and the rim is pretty weak reverse near the 50. But a lot of the other details are in quite nice shape.
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There's no way that the cited coin from Katz Coins Notes & Supplies Europe can be graded UNC. There's wear on the leaves, FRANCS, on Cere's thigh/bottom, the horizon on the left.

I would suggest comparing with coins in http://www.cgb.fr, the well-known French coin dealer, for example, this VF (TTB) specimen https://www.cgb.fr/1-franc-semeuse-...65404,a.html
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I was looking for a higher grade coin for comparison, and couldn't quickly find anything slabbed with that date and design. I agree the Katz coin isn't up to an unqualified UNC.

However, I think TTB (rather than SUP or even presque FDC) is a bit of an understatement for the CGB coin.

Which just goes to show that U.S. eyeballs can be rather more generous than eyeballs across the pond
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Nice original looking AU-50.
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Thank you for the opinions everyone. I only paid bullion price for it. Decided to put it in a 2x2 and keep it. It is a common one but I like the example.
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Weak strike on leaves, good detail on face and gown.

I would say its low VF's.
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