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German Notgeld Collector Of 46 Years, From Uk.

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 Posted 09/23/2020  09:13 am  Show Profile   Check notgeldman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add notgeldman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These are from the notgeld category 'Grossgeld 1918-1921'. Grossgeld are pieces with a face value of 1m and over. (The pfennig notes are 'kleingeld')
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 Posted 09/24/2020  06:18 am  Show Profile   Check notgeldman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add notgeldman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a question for you all.......why, do you think, I have chosen to show you all this piece, from the hundreds of thousands of different issues that were produced? It isn't particularly a nice looking design and doesn't have a nice verse or story or anything.........



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 Posted 09/24/2020  09:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Something about the material. Looks thin, translucent.
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 Posted 09/24/2020  09:57 am  Show Profile   Check notgeldman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add notgeldman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi @jbuck! - No - nothing about the paper. As you probably know, I don't speak German myself, but I tried using one of the translation apps on a search engine.......
Tonight, I will tell you my thoughts.
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 Posted 09/24/2020  10:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Change replacement for the Weisweil community

Valid up to six months after the conclusion of peace.
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 Posted 09/24/2020  10:41 am  Show Profile   Check notgeldman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add notgeldman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@jbuck - YES! So we have 2 things here that are quite interesting for a collector.
1 - The statement 'valid up to 6 months after the peace agreement'
2 - The type of note

This verkehrsausgaben issue is undated, but known to be from 1917, as per the catalogues. No one would have known when the war was going to end and who was going to be victorious. So the statement is more hopeful than factual. It was also a financial hope, with an idea that everything would be rosy at the end of the war and all debts could be repaid after the ... er ... victory. Also - cynically speaking - a hint, putting off patriotic creditors from redeeming the notes during wartime.

This 'Kleingeld-Ersatz' piece is a a replacement / substitute note for small change....... i.e. a note which has replaced what would traditionally be a coin i.e. the origin of Notgeld itself!!
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 Posted 09/24/2020  10:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scopru to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is very interesting. Always enjoy the history with the item
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 Posted 09/25/2020  1:33 pm  Show Profile   Check notgeldman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add notgeldman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These are nice looking inflation pieces:

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 Posted 09/25/2020  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Check notgeldman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add notgeldman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agreed - sets are great for collectors - different colours and different face values.
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 Posted 09/25/2020  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Check notgeldman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add notgeldman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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 Posted 09/25/2020  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scopru to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Any special reason the 100 million in the set is different color than the one you posted alone?
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 Posted 09/26/2020  1:24 pm  Show Profile   Check notgeldman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add notgeldman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@scopru - this green coloured piece is dated 1 month earlier. If one looks closely at the font used for the issuer 'Bochum Association for Mining and Carbon Steel Manufacturing', it is slightly bigger on the green (earlier) issue. You can't see it on the browny coloured 100 millionen mark note from the uploaded scan but the '100' is more spaced on the green note. The brown note also has at the top 'II' (issue 2, presumably after the green issue 'I'.....although that isn't stated. They would have issued the green note which then ran out and so they needed further 100 millionen mark notes to be issued. As the date had moved on they issued the slightly different designed piece (rather than just using the old one). That happened quite a lot in the inflationary period, especially towards the 2nd half of 1923 with the hyper-inflation. One of the notes from the set I scanned is issue 'V'. There is also an issue 'I' on the 200 millionen mark note from September.................
All this makes for trying to collect all the different variants in colour, face value, date of issue and issue number / run
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 Posted 09/26/2020  1:31 pm  Show Profile   Check notgeldman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add notgeldman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When I saw the green note for sale, I bought it! Collectors like all the different pieces and notgeld collectors, especially, are presented with many notes like this. One of my favourite 'notgeld knowledge' points is sifting through the notes for sale out there and picking the scarcer variants of pieces as sellers aren't always aware.
I'll next show you another example of what I mean, but from notgeld category 'serienscheine' of course. Those note variants can differ in value quite a lot, so its very good to know what to look out for. That's where my book 'German Gems' becomes a great source and also of course, being a member of my GNCC.......so you get the access to see all the info held on my notgeld.com website!! Knowledge about what you collect is everything.
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