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 Posted 01/21/2020  3:47 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add keith12 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Scotland 1542-58 Bawbee

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 Posted 01/21/2020  5:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Neat coin. Is there a specific question?

And the mods might move it to the British subforum to get the right eyes on it.

I don't know this type at all, but one thing I notice when I search in CoinArchives or Numista is that I didn't see any other examples with empty fields around the cross reverse.

Edit: There is also something going on left of the crown & thistle that breaks up the M, and makes the beaded circle mis-aligned, but I've seen stuff like this on other hammered coins of this era.
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Thanks Coach I had no idea where to post this. I guess I would like to get a idea of value
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This search brought up examples of bawbees of both both James and Mary that have sold recently:
https://www.coinarchives.com/w/resu...&results=100

The obverse legend on yours, ending in REGINA SCOTORV makes it like Spink 5432, but this type should have two cinquefoils either side of the cross. Maybe someone who actually has a catalog will see this post :
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces17993.html
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Thanks again. I need to learn all the resources available.
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 Posted 01/21/2020  7:15 pm  Show Profile   Check echizento's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting coin, don't see many coins from medieval Scotland.
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 Posted 01/21/2020  9:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Maybe someone who actually has a catalog will see this post


Well my Seaby is from 1984 and I would agree that it is attributed as #5432. The description is "Crowned thistle dividing MR" and "Plain saltire cross through crown, cinquefoil each side, OPPIDVM EDINBVRGI". A subtype with a voided cross is #5433, but that is not what you have. I agree that your coin does not have these six-sided stars on either side of the crown and I'm not sure what to make of this omission.

Here is a link to a Bawbee in inferior condition, but with the cinquefoils:

http://www.londoncoins.co.uk/?page=...searchtype=2


I'd estimate that somewhere in the range of $95 to $150 is a reasonable value--maybe a smidge more because it is entombed.
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 Posted 01/22/2020  5:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pepactonius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For #5432, the more modern 2015 Spink Catalog gives a value of 30 pounds in F, and 125 pounds in VF.
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I think that's consistent with the CoinArchives link that shows an S5432 graded by the seller (Noble) at Good Fine selling at $85 (120 AUD), and another graded "toned VF" (V auctions) selling at $215 US.

I'd put this example somewhere between on grade. Not sure what the slab says... Probably VF?

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XF-45 Thanks everyone
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