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First Box Of Penny Rolls, First Roll Out, This Is The Ender.. Value?

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 Posted 03/30/2020  9:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
an incredible find!

-CH27
"Time is the coin of life. Only you can determine how it will be spent" -Carl Sandburg
A few notable finds:
1857 FEC DDO S-4 FS-101:
http://goccf.com/t/368150
1888-O $1 Hot Lips VAM-4:
http://goccf.com/t/363580
1970-S 1C DDO FS-103
http://goccf.com/t/372456




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 Posted 03/30/2020  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DeadElvis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can someone explain the find to us newbies?
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 Posted 03/30/2020  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1909-S VDB wheat cents are kinda unique. Google it.
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03/30/2020 9:57 pm
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 Posted 03/30/2020  9:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cool find! Wonder if a collector decided to return the coin to the wild. Not a frequent event, but it has happened.
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 Posted 03/30/2020  9:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DeadElvis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks ijn1944. I was obviously mistaken that people on a coin forum could explain something to a noob. I'll go Google it then still remember you were a . Thanks!
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 Posted 03/30/2020  10:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
.... to the Community!

I personally find this hard to believe but I guess it could happen.

Congrats!
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 Posted 03/30/2020  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well as mentioned, with only 484K of these struck, they are very collectable. The better the condition the higher the price. So to the story. In 1909 the Lincoln cents were a new change of design for cents. It is Abraham Lincolns Birth year. The change from the Indian Head design was a big change then. But both mints were striking the coins with the V.D.B. on the reverse.

There were three different die obverses for that year. So if a 1909-S V.D.B. doesn't match these locations, then it is a fake:




Well the public had a large uproar about the size of the initials of the designer. So much, that the changed the reverse dies to not have the initials. (Only a few months in to the change)
The Philly V.D.B dots locations were different from the locations on the 'S' mint reverse dies. (Another clue for counterfeit detecting)


So when a new design happens, a lot of these coins were saved. So they had after that point the no V.D.B. These make it hard now to complete a full set of these coins. There was no V.D.B. on the cents until 1918 where it was added to the edge of the shoulder on all three mints. (Denver started production in 1911 with the mintmark 'D'. Totals For 1909 year is:
1909 V.D.B. : 27,995,000

1909 V.D.B Matte Proof : 1,194

1909-S V.D.B. 484,000


1909 72,702,618

1909 Matte Proof 2,618

1909-s 1,825,000


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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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03/30/2020 11:33 pm
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 Posted 03/30/2020  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Incredible find!
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
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 Posted 03/30/2020  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DeadElvis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Coop. When people tell you to Google stuff, the results invariably links back to this forum. You are often the expert.

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03/31/2020 09:12 am
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 Posted 03/30/2020  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fplagge to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unbelievable! Are you just playing a joke on us?
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 Posted 03/30/2020  10:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Unbelievable! Are you just playing a joke on us?


Could be an early April Fools joke. It's only a couple of days away.

It happens a lot on public forums this time of the year.
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 Posted 03/30/2020  11:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SamCoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@GreasyFingers especially since OP is in Seattle, I'd say stay in and have some lottery tickets mailed instead lol

Unreal find, DoesThisCount. I would say, yes. Yes, it counts. Getting this as an ender has to be more improbably than winning back to back powerballs lol.
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03/30/2020 11:19 pm
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 Posted 03/30/2020  11:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Curveball to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congratulations very nice find. Send that baby in to a professional coin grading service and get it slabbed immediately. Very lucky like everyone says and to find it on the end of a roll almost unheard of.
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03/30/2020 11:24 pm
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Looks like die #3 But the angle of the date doesn't help much so far. Images of the Dots on the V.D.B. would be helpful to confirm it being real or not.
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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03/30/2020 11:39 pm
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 Posted 03/31/2020  12:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DoesThisCount to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No not joking, no April foolery. Actually decided to get the box for something to do while waiting out the apocalypse and bam there it was
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