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1652 New England 3 Pence?

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 Posted 04/03/2020  06:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mail187man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've found this thread to be very interesting whether real or not. I hope for your sake it is real. I honestly think it looks like a previous metal detecting find. Living in New England myself, I've dug silvers with very similar staining. I honestly never knew these existed, but I was aware of pine tree schillings. Now have a new bucket-lister for when I am out digging in the fields.
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 Posted 04/03/2020  07:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larsjan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In photoshop I slid a semi transparent photo of the stamp of my coin over a photo of the stamp of an original 6 pence coin. I find the equality amazing!
Only on the left side of the stamp there is a deviation which I think may be due to the double stroke.
It can be seen very well in the large file, unfortunately I had to drastically reduce the file size in order to place it here which makes it less clear.


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 Posted 04/03/2020  07:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larsjan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Next week I will have an XRF analysis of the coin made by a laboratory.
That way they can see what the composition of the metal is.
I have read that pre-1850 sterling silver must contain traces of gold and lead.
If that is the case with this coin then it is in any case proven that it is from before 1850.
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 Posted 04/03/2020  08:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Next week I will have an XRF analysis of the coin made by a laboratory.



Good idea! If you don't mind, please post the results on this thread. We are all on your side hoping that your piece ends up being authentic, but even if not, this is a fascinating story and interesting thread.
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 Posted 04/05/2020  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steviegetz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey larsjan , I collect massachusetts silver, Please email me. You may be able to me with a netherlands coin I have also!, thanks
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 Posted 04/05/2020  7:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Who does't love a mystery? I must subscribe to this topic.
Brother, can you spare a "BARBER" dime?
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 Posted 04/07/2020  07:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larsjan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hope to receive the results of the XRF analysis this week.
As soon as I get it in, I'll put it here.
In the meantime, I also looked up the old coin holder.
It appears that the coin was acquired by the collector in 1798.


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 Posted 04/07/2020  09:39 am  Show Profile   Check edweather's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Certainly a great looking old holder.

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 Posted 04/07/2020  10:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steviegetz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know one of the foremost experts in the series, and that if it's real, he could help getting it properly authenticated and valued on your behalf. With this type of coin you will most likely see alot of negative responses or others simply trying to take advantage of you. If your serious I can get you in touch with him, he can go over his credentials with you and show you collections hes worked with in the past. I personally think there is a high chance of your coin being genuine and this would be your best course of action. Other experts ive talked have to automatically dismissed it as fake
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 Posted 04/07/2020  12:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steviegetz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Holder looks great!
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 Posted 04/07/2020  1:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larsjan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am currently in contact with an expert who has written a study on these coins.
Tomorrow I will get the results of the XRF.
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 Posted 04/07/2020  2:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DoctorBurnzy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Woah! It just gets better and better now. Did you inform Heritage of the holder?
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 Posted 04/07/2020  3:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steviegetz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 04/07/2020  3:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 04/07/2020  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JJuliano to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fascinating
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