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2011 Five Moroccan Dihrams Possible Double Strike?

 
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I set this aside a week or so ago around the same time I found the doubled dies I posted from my world coin jar. Not really sure what to make of it - is it just a very messy strike from a mint with lower quality standards than the US mint, or is it a possible double strike? There seems to be evidence of the chin and neck being struck once and then re-struck over in a slightly different position on the front of the coin. Parts look like severe MD, but other places you can see are still rounded with the original contours of the chin and neck (especially the neck, a shadow of which extends all the way onto the silver rim of the coin), which makes me think it might be a re-strike.








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Hmmm I think that at least some of what we are seeing are die chips.
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@Spence not the chips, but the gently sloping raised areas. In the bottom picture you can see an outline of the neck that extends all the way down to the silver rim.

As you can see here, the outline of the face is meant to end very abruptly, not slope gently downward until it meets the fields as it does on the coin above https://en.numista.com/catalogue/ph...original.jpg
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@SC, ok yes, I should have been more descriptive. I see some die chips, but also there is what appears to be flan cracking. This isn't something that we typically see in US coins, so perhaps it is due to the bimetalic aspect of this coin. Have you found similar situations in Euro coins? This isn't really in my wheelhouse so I'm not very sure myself.
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Flan cracking isn't something I know anything about, but google is saying it's the phenomenon, typically seen in ancient hammered coins, where the metal splits at the edges from the outward force of the strike? I'm not really seeing anything that looks like it on this coin, but, as I said, not a term I was even familiar with before you mentioned it, so it certainly could be and I just don't understand the process
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