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Some Grades Just Make You Scratch Your Head

 
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 Posted 04/17/2020  08:43 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Like this one: https://onebid.pl/en/auction/944/lo...cow-NGC-au55

Eye appeal of this coin is more like VF in my opinion. But that's why I don;t grade coins for a living. (Yes, I checked. It's the real deal)
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 Posted 04/17/2020  10:52 am  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't disagree too much with NGC on this one. Rather poor strike quality plus the fact that it appears to have spent some time in saltwater hurt the eye appeal I wouldn't disagree that it's still AU.
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 Posted 04/17/2020  11:30 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Real world GVF to NEF . Hardly an AU coin in my opinion .
Strike and surfaces are horrible on that coin .
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 Posted 04/17/2020  12:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Planchet defects of a couple types (it looks like the one in the center of the coin goes all the way through) combined with an uneven strike. I don't think I've ever seen an AU coin with a hole that wasn't supposed to be there (granted, it's not PMD).

I guess someone will be pleased to have an AU coin from this reign.
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 Posted 04/17/2020  2:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numis-Northerner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not too familiar with these, but the poor strike on these reverse left side would probably kept this out of the AU range
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 Posted 04/17/2020  3:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the farther back we go, the more eye appeal and technical grade diverge.

I see a lot of coins like this with horrible strike issues that get high technical grades because it is not wear that is obliterating large parts of the coin
https://onebid.pl/en/auction/944/lo...eld-NGC-ms61
https://onebid.pl/en/auction/968/lo...63-at-krakow
(at least the second one truly looks MS on the 60% of the coin that is OK)
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 Posted 04/21/2020  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realeswatcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
While I've seen a few NGC "MS__" grades recently that have made me laugh... my observation is that some of the grading that presumably comes out of the European outposts of NGC/PCGS strays too much from what you would see at the home offices (usually on the liberal end).
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 Posted 04/26/2020  3:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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The coin that led off the thread, the AU-55 with a planchet defect so bad you can see daylight through the coin, did sell, but not for much ($38). That's the typical price for a decently struck coin of this type in VF. https://onebid.pl/en/auction/944/lo...cow-NGC-au55

I guess there are limits to eye appeal that even an attractive grade can't overcome
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