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1886 United Kingdom Silver Penny

 
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 Posted 07/03/2020  6:58 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ariette to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This came in today. It's amazing how tiny it is, and how they were able to put so much detail on such a tiny piece back in 1886.


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 Posted 07/03/2020  9:48 pm  Show Profile   Check Lancek's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Lancek to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
25 cent melt on a .925 coin, that must be tiny. Cool!
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 Posted 07/04/2020  12:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The detail was easy to produce, because at the time this coin was minted,
The Royal Mint was using pantographic reduction machines to engrave the master dies for the much smaller Maundy issues.

At most, only a few thousand of each value and date were coined for personal presentation to the poor
by the Monarch, or her Royal representative, the Royal Almoner, on Maundy Thursday each year.

Due to their relative scarcity and Biblical and Royal importance, these coins can have a value of at least a few Pounds or so, even in this grade. Very few of them found their way back to be melting pot, because of their keepsake value.

Like the U.S. Three Cent Silvers and half dimes,
these coins are very often found holed, and then they are only worth silver value.
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 Posted 07/04/2020  04:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Princetane to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful pieces and strictly ceremonial.

They did enter circulation at times like yours. Here's mine, 30 years older but virtually the same thing.




The number issued was a few thousand sets per year, but an interesting way how Maundy took place was done each year.

(Please ignore if you know).

Each year around Easter the ruling sovereign would distribute purses full of Maundy coins to needy pensioners. The number distributed depended on the age of the sovereign.

In 1886, the Queen was 67 years old, but it was before her birthday in May, so it may have been 66 - meaning she would give 66 pensioners a purse of 66 silver pence, made up of the coins 4, 3, 2, and 1 penny.

In 1857, my coin it was only 37 pence to 37 pensioners!

The ritual goes back to the middle ages, but the earliest proper Maundy coins are from Charles II (1660s) and not every year saw them until the time of Victoria.

This year the Queen would have distributed 93 or 94 pence to the same number of pensioners, the most ever.

The coins were sterling silver until 1920, then 50% until 1946. Surprisingly with cupronickel in 1947 they went back to sterling silver maundy coins and it remains today even in this decimal age!

Loving Halfcrowns. British and Commonwealth coins 1750 - 1950 and anything Kiwi.
If it's round, shiny and silvery I will love it.
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 Posted 12/04/2020  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ariette to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here it is with better photography, if anyone is interested:



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 Posted 12/05/2020  02:13 am  Show Profile   Check PaddyB's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add PaddyB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just to add to @Princetane 's description as to how they were issued, which is all correct, however more coins were also made available to collectors in special presentation boxes. Until at least WW2 the way to get them was to request them through your bank. Numbers minted were governed by demand, so some years ended up scarcer than others.

More recently they can be bought from The Royal Mint direct.

Most single coins from Victoria onwards sell individually for 10 to 20 - mostly to people looking to complete year sets. Complete sets start around 100 and can make 200 if in really good matching condition with their issue box.
Earlier ones can make many 100s.
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 Posted 12/13/2020  03:43 am  Show Profile   Check PaddyB's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add PaddyB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"Sometimes" seems to be the answer. There are none that I can see on their website at the moment, but some of their year sets in recent years have included them. The 2006 set was certainly one.
I am guessing the 2021 set would be available around Easter time if they are releasing it.
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 Posted 12/19/2020  12:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hm, they seem a bit less special now.
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 Posted 12/21/2020  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Came to this thread expecting to see a normal 1886 bronze penny that had been silver-dipped.

Pleasantly surprised.
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