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1858 Canada 20 Cent - How Good Is This?

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 Posted 08/14/2020  5:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silver101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@NumisNortherner - I feel like I'm seeing wear in both the hair at the top of the head, parts of the braid and that little ascending bundle of locks to the left and slightly above the ear. No? The reverse is extremely good - that takes it easily into AU in my books...
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 Posted 08/14/2020  9:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What interests me is that it is an early die state with an unusually weak strike. The devices and fields are fantastic. I could see the slight rub on the obverse as coin cabinet rub, rather than from circulation.

I'm curious about the strike on this coin. Does anyone have information on the type of coining press used and the striking pressure for the twenty cent?
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 Posted 08/14/2020  9:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bosox to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is always possible that I am in error, but I do not really think PCGS took a coin with AU wear (or any noticeable wear) and put it into a 66 holder. Or that the best Canadian collection since Belzberg, which the premier rare coin dealer in Canada helped assemble, made a worn coin part of that collection. Or that somebody bought a worn coin for $18K, cracked it out, and sent it to ICCS where they put it in a 67 holder. Or than somebody else then bought a worn coin for $13K.

Weak strike and pictures taken through a PCGS holder that do not show the luster. If there was a luster break in the effigy the graders would have caught it. All JMO.
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 Posted 08/14/2020  10:58 pm  Show Profile   Check Wade's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Wade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
going agree with bosox on this one,

although the coin's photos are unimpressive, you aren't going to fool 2 TPGs and 2 buyers (each spending 5 digits on the coin) without there being "something more to it".

not my cup of tea, but I suspect there is more to this coin that can be derived by said photos


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