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Post Your Contemporary Counterfeit Coppers!

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Canada
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 Posted 02/17/2021  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add blargish to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've been having a tough time trying to ID this regal evasion, at least with respect to Atkins' listings.

I can (somewhat) discern the following for the legends:

Obv GEORGE RULES.
Rev BRITAN NIA. Ex ?

Uncertain of the punctuation due to the wear. I initially believed it to be Atkins 159, but after viewing an image of that variety it is quite different. A google image search yielded a variety having the same obverse with a NORTH WALES reverse of an unreadable date.

Any thoughts are appreciated!


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United Kingdom
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 Posted 03/27/2021  06:02 am  Show Profile   Check PaddyB's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add PaddyB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Picked up this one last week - a fairly standard 1775 contemporary counterfeit but with surprisingly good detail.
The blob on the left of the obverse seems to be something melted onto the coin rather than verdigris. I have tried various solvents and heating to around 100C without shifting any of it!

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United States
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 Posted 03/28/2021  10:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sjkrose to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PaddyB,
That's a Long Top Seven family member which is briefly discussed in one of the chapter of the book. "Contemporary Counterfeit Halfpenny and Farthing Families". Congrats on your new acquisition...

Rickie
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Canada
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 Posted 06/17/2021  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add blargish to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was surprised to come across one of these and jumped at the chance to pick it up! A Duke of Yorke "Evasion Hybrid" with an evasion obverse and contemporary counterfeit reverse. The crude Irish-type reverse is evidently a die from the Simian family of counterfeits with its characteristic crudity and hand-cut lettering.

Listed as Cobwright D.0020/H.0110 and Atkins 97.
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United States
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 Posted 06/18/2021  9:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sjkrose to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
blargish
I updated my Simian Plate with your new addition... Thanks for posting!
Rickie

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Canada
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 Posted 06/19/2021  12:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add blargish to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No worries! I've been getting back into contemporary counterfeits as of late. Do you happen to have an example of the Irish Simian obverse that pairs with the 1769 reverse?

Also, are those images from your own collection? The Duke of Yorke - Britannia example is fantastic.

Cheers,
Will
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06/19/2021 12:15 pm
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Australia
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 Posted 06/23/2021  10:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add David Graham to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


Sorry. Given the thread title the temptation was too great.
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06/23/2021 10:23 pm
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 Posted 06/23/2021  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Check daltonista's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add daltonista to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply








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Canada
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 Posted 06/23/2021  11:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add blargish to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A rare unlisted variety that one is. any photos with higher resolution?!
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 Posted 06/24/2021  02:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add David Graham to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:

A rare unlisted variety that one is. any photos with higher resolution?!

Nah. Only low res dash CAM footage.
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