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NGC Certifies First Known Sacagawea-Presidential Dollar Mule

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 Posted 01/18/2021  12:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The only chance I ever get to go to get sag dollars will be from my work vending machines.

One of a kind is nice to have, but would like to see a few more of these.

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 Posted 01/18/2021  2:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Big-Kingdom to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My opinion. IF this isn't a fake made somewhere, and IF it isn't a mint employee made one of a kind, then it's safe to say there are thousands of them out there somewhere most likely in bags and rolls bought from the mint and put up by collectors that bought them, and those won't be AU.

This isn't like the Quarter/SAC mule of 2000 where only about 19 have been found and it was likely test pieces by the mint that got out on accident or on purpose and why it is two obverses and no date, because they didn't have the Obverse dies with the 2000 date ready or available yet when they did it.

Anyways. if I was a bidder and it went up for sale, I'd hold back, it's got the "Discovery coin" thing going for it, but that's about it.
It's very likely, actually pretty certain there's thousands more out there in NIFC bags and rolls the mint sold directly waiting for people to open them an look, and now people know to look. They didn't put this pair on a press and strike one coin and switch back and if they did then it's mint shenanigans because theres' no reason at all to mix up the two except on accident that went unnoticed, and for it to go unnoticed, then the bin was QC'ed, passed and dumped to be bagged and rolled and cherry picked for mint sets possibly ect. on the P+D the edge lettering is a separate step even, after the strike, so it's two QC checks and two bin dumps. There will have to be thousands eventually found I'd think and if not, then it was shenannigans.

And this is going to keep the price down on it, it's not 2 dozen test pieces that got out, they weren't testing for anything at Denver in 2014, in 2000 (1999) Philadelphia was making and testing the hubs for the new sac dollars.

and it's not one, and if it's one, it's going to fall in the "must of been a mint worker messing around" category.


willing to bet once word gets out and people start checking their bags and rolls from 2014 Denver, a lot more are going to be turning up in MS conditions.


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 Posted 01/18/2021  3:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chase007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I doubt NGC could have been fooled

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 Posted 01/18/2021  3:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In their defense, a coin in hand is worth a thousand photos.
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 Posted 01/18/2021  3:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add keith12 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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When I saw that Nail/Dime "MINT ERROR" years ago, go from the mint to a slab......................well, I'm always skeptical.
Hay could have happened. Maybe they were putting up crown molding that day
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Maybe they were putting up crown molding that day
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 Posted 01/18/2021  4:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MOS0239 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Hay could have happened. Maybe they were putting up crown molding that day


That's funny and true!! LoL!!

They say the mint production floor is like a construction site. Tools, rags, grease, forklifts, who knows what else.
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 Posted 01/19/2021  10:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chase007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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They say the mint production floor is like a construction site. Tools, rags, grease, forklifts, who knows what else.

That's ok, as long as they continue producing errors
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 Posted 01/19/2021  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MOS0239 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Impressive library coop. You forgot the nail.
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 Posted 01/21/2021  8:43 pm  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The nail coin? Like the Roosevelt dime? When I first saw this it was pretty obvious this was made intentionally, but how it got out of the mint is a mystery.

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 Posted 01/21/2021  8:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MOS0239 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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When I first saw this it was pretty obvious this was made intentionally,


Wrong! It's a real mint error, PCGS says so.






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but how it got out of the mint is a mystery.


Probably in his shoe.
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 Posted 01/21/2021  9:25 pm  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That nail is graded MS65 too! No wear almost a perfect nail. The slight bend is probably what kept it out of a higher tier grade.
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That nail is graded MS65 too! No wear almost a perfect nail. The slight bend is probably what kept it out of a higher tier grade.
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That is hilarious!!

I want to know how the spring one got out of the mint as well. You'd think that'd catch an eye.

Mint shenanigans...I guess it's hard to really know what another person would do, but I can't imagine that a mint employee would risk his or her job (and possible prosecution) unless they A) felt they could get away with it, and B) intended to make enough money to be worth the risk. Also, if they struck only one, I doubt they'd let it out for circulation. If they struck multiple coins and let some out for circulation so someone else would make the "discovery," the fact that it took this long would have made them nuts. Criminals don't tend to be that smart or patient. And now they'd have to wait some more because right now the value of the coin isn't really defined—more will need to be found in order to get some idea how rare they are, right? A person who was counting on making big money off this could die of old age before this really paid off.

There's probably a flaw in my thinking somewhere (there usually is) but I'm leaning towards the belief that A) this truly was a mint error, B) it was discovered and corrected early, so that only a small number were released, and C) the majority of those are still in bags somewhere, but will be found now that people know to hunt for them.

Are there a lot of collectors for this type of coin?
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 Posted 01/26/2021  5:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chase007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Update:

I was just informed that it is going up on Heritage Auction block soon.Their Rep. on the way to pick it up.
Will keep you posted.

Any $$ guesses? let's see who come close


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Curious why send this it to NGC and not PCGS?

Not sure,it was the owners choice I guess.
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just got this message last night:

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Here it is Mike! They are coming to get it in the morning


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