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1980 P 1c Struck Through With Dropped Letters?

 
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 Posted 01/23/2021  02:03 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CoinHI to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
From CRH. Struck Through Grease (Rev) with dropped letter(s)? Gouge depression under "T" looks like a swiss army knife of "T" bars to me.






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 Posted 01/23/2021  11:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rothery to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a pretty common area on Lincoln Memorial cents to have weak letters. As far as a dropped letter, it's just too hard to tell what's going on there from the pictures. It kinda has the same shape as the top of that T
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 Posted 01/24/2021  12:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHI to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for having a look Rothery. I know the grease is common, I'm just trying to figure out what was maybe struck in the grease. Its not easy to capture a good photo but I've added another here. Looks like something interesting but still not sure.


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 Posted 01/24/2021  01:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, I think you have a Greaser here, with some sort of bad stain, probably caused from environmental conditions. Dropped letter? Not convinced, but you know, sometimes too much magnification can prevent you for seeing more obvious things. Can you give us both an obverse and reverse overall photo? I see the "swiss army knife" mark, I just cannot see what it might be.

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 Posted 01/24/2021  08:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hard to say from those photos but it is not a dropped "T".
The angle at the top of the T is running towards the stem instead of away from it.
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 Posted 01/24/2021  11:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHI to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll try uploading those photos later Merclover.

JimmyD, what if this filling had flipped over, then this angle would be right? I'm not convinced it's a "T" but the proximity to the real "T" and the fact that the real "T" has die damage on the top bar has me curious.
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 Posted 01/24/2021  12:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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JimmyD, what if this filling had flipped over, then this angle would be right?

Flipping it over would not make any difference. You can't change the angle, it will always be running away from the stem.


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 Posted 01/25/2021  10:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHI to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not very precise but Ive added lines showing what I think matches curve on the bottom of the bar on "T". The blue line represents where the stem would be.


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 Posted 01/25/2021  11:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dropped letters would be incuse, not raised.
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 Posted 01/25/2021  3:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHI to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coop, The marks are definitely incuse. That last photo with the color lines I drew has negative lighting creating the raised look.
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 Posted 01/28/2021  11:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHI to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Doing a little research on possible explanations on Error-Ref. I believe this could be related to a "Grease-mediated radial smear" (with a struck through bulging die filling?). The smear seems to flow toward the rim as described. Any thoughts or opinions are welcome.

http://www.error-ref.com/grease-med...adial-smear/
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 Posted 01/30/2021  1:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The defect is too small and too subtle to determine what it might represent. It's not grease-mediated radial smear.
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 Posted 01/30/2021  3:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHI to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Mike!
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