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The St. Patrick Copper Coinage Of New Jersey

 
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PCGS - St. Patrick is an iconic figure in popular culture, but he's more than just a merry mascot of the eponymous Irish-themed holiday celebrated on March 17. He was a real person born in Roman Britain who lived in the fifth century as a Christian missionary and became a bishop in Ireland. His religious feast day is March 17, the date he was believed to have died in 461 A.D. Though never officially canonized as a saint by the Catholic Church, he is widely regarded as the patron saint of Ireland.

St. Patrick has long been attached to cultural legend in Ireland, and his popularity in the United States and other nations with large populations of Irish stock has only further cemented his fame on a stage far broader than the Emerald Isle. His likeness appears on everything from stained glass windows to shot glasses, and he plays the central figure on any number of religious tokens and medals. He is even featured on copper coins known as the St. Patrick "Farthing" and St. Patrick "Halfpenny." These coins are colloquially known as Saint Patrick Coppers.


Pre-1776 States Coinage, St Patrick Farth New Jersey, BN, PCGS AU58BN

These coins were most likely struck sometime between the mid-1640s and early 1660s, though - like their dates of production - where they were minted is shrouded in academic uncertainty; some sources say they were struck at the Tower of London, while other sources point to origins in Ireland. They were brought America by an English Quaker named Mark Newby, who was a merchant in Dublin.

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 Posted 03/17/2021  8:26 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Halfpenny was said to have circulated in West New Jersey during Colonial times. In fact, a few specimens were excavated in a Colonial era town site a few years back.
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Very cool bi-metallic from the Colonies--been on my list for a while. This one is especially nice. Thx @bobby!
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 Posted 03/17/2021  9:00 pm  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd really like to get the 4 set volumes from Syd Martin which includes the "Saint Patrick Coinage (for Ireland and New Jersey)" titled book, the set is out while too many other sets I want are also out, that makes:

4 vol. Set Syd Martin Colonial set
3 vol. Set Complete Carson City Collector
The History & Coinage of Machin's Mills
Abel Buell and the History of the Connecticut and Fugio Coinages
The Half Cent Handbook (Draped Busts Varieties 1800-1808)

I would really like to get for my library this month, unfortunately together they cost more than 4 months of my coin/book budget. Doh!

One day., maybe I'll catch up if they quit releasing so many neat books I must have.
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Neat article and reminds me of a 'white metal" St. Patrick's farthing I got from a friend. He said he acquired it from a lady who found it while gardening in NJ.

After some research, I contacted Sid Martin with some images and he graciously offered to look it over for me. After a while, he returned it to me along with a letter explaining it was actually a lead copy made by a guy in the 60's.
"It is a copy, made by Peter Rosa working in the Bronx as the Becker Manufacturing Company in the early-mid 1960s."
He pointed out the area on the "coin" where the casting sprue was still visible. I was disappointed with the results of course but extremely grateful for him taking the time to evaluate it and give such a lengthy explanation, including Specific gravity tests he performed and how Becker produced his dies. His expertise is inspiring.
Here's a couple of poor images I took in 2018 for those that are interested.

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westcoin, I have all of the Syd Martin books except for the French coinage one, they are absolutely fantastic. I have the Machin's Mill and Abel Buell books as well, can't go wrong with any of them!
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Great article and thank you for sharing.
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When I first saw that image I thought "what's that orangey discoloration?" and then I learned! Great read!
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westcoin, I have all of the Syd Martin books except for the French coinage one, they are absolutely fantastic. I have the Machin's Mill and Abel Buell books as well, can't go wrong with any of them!


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Oh I'm absolutely sure of that! I have studied them all fairly extensively through online reviews and discussions with those that have them, I'm just torn as to what order to get them in, first one I really wanted was the Machin's Mills, but I hear from my pusher, I mean book dealer, that they have plenty of copies of that one on hand, I'm thinking the Syd Martin set might be the one to get. The Carson City I have so much information already, all of Rusty's previous books (I do like the old west though) I know there is a lot of new information, but since I'm collecting books more than coins lately, that is until my employment situation looks up. I think, I'll go with this order;

1. Syd Martin Set
2. Abel Buell
3. Machin's Mills
4. Rusty's Carson Set

Also chosen as to affordability as well. I do have some plans to list some extra book copies and duplicates I've had piling up on eBay this week and next.
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