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1909 S - Lincoln Cent - Thoughts On Grade

 
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 Posted 03/03/2021  10:54 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add MrBreeze to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
What do you think this would grade? What are some telltale signs of "cleaned" ? There are some very fine scratches when looking under magnification, but how do you know if that is just from it being 112 years old? I do have photos of the scratches that I could post if needed. I did include 2 obverse photos - tried playing with the lighting.


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 Posted 03/03/2021  11:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, please show us photos of the scratches, and also tell us which set of pics is closest to the true color.
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 Posted 03/03/2021  11:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrBreeze to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The top 2 pictures or brighter photos are closest to true color. Here are a few of the scratches.




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 Posted 03/03/2021  11:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks cleaned in your second obverse photo. Those fine, parallel scratches are indicative of a coin that's been rubbed or brushed during cleaning. What gets me is that the luster still looks reasonably natural in the first couple pictures.
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 Posted 03/03/2021  11:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
this is sad. nice coin that would have graded high AU. the coin was either wizzed or cleaned with some type of abrasive. the circular movement of the scratches leads me to believe it was mechanical. this is very prevalent on the second obverse photo. it may not enough to destroy the coin but enough to affect grade and value and the coin would not grade straight
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I was thinking the circular scratches were from a short trip in a coin rolling machine at some point in its life. I will have to research "whizzing" .
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Guess I'll have to say (high0 AU details (cleaned).
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I was thinking the circular scratches were from a short trip in a coin rolling machine at some point in its life.

The scratches in the right field don't appear to be perfectly parallel to the rim, like roller damage. I'm thinking they could just be normal scratches. The other scratches definitely make it a problem coin, though.
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Thanks all - so it's a no on TPG! What color designation would you give this? The first pic of the coin is closest to the true color. Probably will keep in a flip in the collection. The coin does have decent eye appeal to me .
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What color designation would you give this?


an AU or detailed coin would not receive a color grade. these photos are not good enough to give a color even if it was appropriate
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 Posted 03/04/2021  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Check BadThad's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It clear this coin was harshly cleaned at some point and then retoned. The last picture in you post shows cleaning lines extending from field to field across the devices.
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