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2016 P Jefferson. Pre Cud?

 
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 Posted 03/07/2021  3:11 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add RobO411 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Do you think this is a Pre Cud? Thanks for opinions.

I don't know which coins I dislike the most to search Nickels Dimes or those VAMs.


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 Posted 03/07/2021  4:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes seems to be a pre-cud, although I don't see it listed on the cuds-on-coins website. Could be a good find!
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 Posted 03/07/2021  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RobO411 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Spence. You're right it's not on Cudsoncoins.
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 Posted 03/07/2021  6:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks more like a splash like wave from metal movement to me. if it were a cud, it would rise higher than the rim area. As much as the void would fill. I'm not seeing that here.
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 Posted 03/08/2021  11:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RobO411 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Was thinking about this last night. Here's a few/6 closeups. I'm thinking now it's something like rim fin or (?)
I hate wasting JC's time.I already sent Pre Cud info. I sent him these pictures.
Now whatcha think?






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 Posted 03/08/2021  5:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RobO411 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
JC got back. It's not a Pre Cud.
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 Posted 03/08/2021  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Appears to be indented.

Also too small of an area for me to count as a cud. IMO.

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 Posted 03/08/2021  6:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RobO411 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well. Sense coop got me thinking I looked closer.
It looks like the part where the blue arrows are pointing belongs back where the black arrows are pointing. The metal at blue is folded over from the rim. That's the bottom of metal of rim. If you picture rolling it back over then where the red arrows are pointing it would line up with the angle of rim.
Now if I'm right my question. What would it be called? I don't think it's a rim fin. What ever it's called I wonder when and how it happened? It's pretty clean and close to the field. Not real loose. Probably could pry it back over. At least away from field.
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 Posted 03/08/2021  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sirguardian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 03/08/2021  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Or.... A struck through a piece of debris? See if the same thing is going on, on the outside edge of the coin? What I saw different on the closer view of the images was in imprint of the flow lines on the affected area. (Images 5 and 6 counting from the top) So I leaning more towards a struck through issue of debris? That would explain why the metal looked folded over and even attached. On the last image: note the blue arrows? That is showing there the plating moved to form that area. So I'm learning more towards the struck though debris theory, because of the better images added to the thread.
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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