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1916 D Mercury Dime Counterfeit - Exactly Why?

 
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 Posted 03/21/2021  1:22 pm Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This coin was flagged as a counterfeit, and I bought it as such. But I'm not a Mercury collector so am looking for advice as to exactly which method of counterfeiting was used. I'm guessing it is a glued on mint mark. Am I right?

It weighs 2.36g.

1916-D Mercury dime counterfeit - tell me why





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03/21/2021 1:23 pm
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 Posted 03/21/2021  2:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm also guessing it's an added mintmark. There were 4 reverse dies used for the 1916-D, and I believe in all of them the stand of the D is parallel with the stand of the nearby E. This one looks angled wrong.
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 Posted 03/21/2021  2:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting. Check mint mark placement using these images by way of PCGS:
https://www.PCGS.com/coinfacts/coin...6-d-10c/4906


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 Posted 03/21/2021  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know much about 16-D mercs but that MM sure looks too far slanted to the right .
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 Posted 03/21/2021  2:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The inside of the D should have the triangular knockout shape, position is slightly off, maybe take a picture at an angle around the mint mark to see sign of "glued" on. Not a bad counterfeit.

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 Posted 03/21/2021  6:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like an "s" mintmark was shaved off and a "d" mintmark was carelessly positioned and glued/welded back on.

I'm guessing this was one of the counterfeiters trial pieces used to fine tune his skills. Many others are still out there!
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 Posted 03/21/2021  10:23 pm  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the great comments! Sounds like my guess was right and the general agreement is that the D has been added. That'll be how I label it.
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 Posted 03/22/2021  4:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It does appear to have an S under the D. I'd try putting it in Acetone to see what happens. Might be a real 16D. I tend to ignor all the stories of how things were done a long time ago.
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 Posted 03/23/2021  12:44 am  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How much did you pick it up for ? Just curious.
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 Posted 03/23/2021  11:09 pm  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I paid ten bucks for it. And honestly am not very inclined to put it in acetone, as I collect counterfeits and if the D fell off then it would ruin the coin for what it is. I do not have a 1916-D in my collection, as not what I collect, but now I have two of these nifty counterfeit 1916-D coins, which I do collect.
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 Posted 04/07/2021  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MisterT to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I too would suspect the mint mark because to the best of my knowledge, the D is supposed to be tilted but not quite this much. I believe that if you could draw imaginary lines from the serifs of the D, it should line up with the center leg of the E of One or perhaps just slightly higher. This one looks like it aligns with the top leg of the E
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