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Why Silver Stackers Should Buy Slabbed MS65 Modern Coins

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 Posted 05/27/2021  09:17 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CCFPress to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
PCGS - With silver prices making moves, many precious metals speculators are understandably looking toward bars, rounds, or pre-1965 90% silver United States "junk" coins. But those who are hedging their bets with silver might be scoring one of the best advantages of all when purchasing MS65 modern 90% silver coinage, including Roosevelt dimes, Washington quarters, Franklin half dollars, and 1964 Kennedy half dollars.

Surely, it's conventional wisdom for bullion investors to buy silver at the cheapest price they can get, gram for gram. This generally leads them to buying raw junk silver coins in roll or bag quantities. But perhaps silver stackers are missing the mark here when it comes to liquidity. Is it really the best move to buy silver "cheap," or is it better to buy quality silver coins that offer enhanced crossover appeal to the numismatic marketplace?

It may not be hard to see where the logic is going here. While it's futile to even try predicting what the bullion market will look like next week or next year, let alone tomorrow, it's reasonable to suggest that the numismatic marketplace will continue favoring quality coins - just as has pretty much always been the case. Many bullion speculators reading this might be scratching their heads here wondering, "WHAaaaa? Why pay more than spot for silver coins?"

But, just for a moment here, let's consider the pricing of Gem (MS65) common dates in the most widely traded 90% silver series that also see heavy activity in the bullion marketplace in circulated grades. These coins would include the aforementioned Roosevelt dime, Washington quarter, Franklin half dollar, and 1964 Kennedy half dollar - all representing the bulk of raw, junk silver coinage today.


Roosevelt Dime, 1956 10C, PCGS MS65

Washington Quarter, 1949 25C, PCGS MS65

Franklin Half Dollar, 1951 50C, PCGS MS65

Kennedy Half Dollar, 1964 50C, PCGS MS65

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 Posted 05/27/2021  10:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jskirwin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Respectfully disagree with you, dear CCF patron.
A quick check on PCGS finds that until this year, the price of a MS65 Kennedy half had been fairly stable over the past 10 years.



Over the same period, silver has been much more volatile and the price of a bag of 90% silver coins reflects that volatility.



There are valid reasons to buy slabbed coins, but the investment potential is lacking in common coins - even those in high grades.

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 Posted 05/27/2021  11:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know how much I trust the price guides, I purchased an MS 66 JFK (silver) for $18, so I think the price guide maybe way too high.
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 Posted 05/27/2021  11:32 am  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I purchased an MS 66 JFK (silver) for $18, so I think the price guide maybe way too high.


That's an extremely low price. I dunno who you bought that from, but you stole that at that price.
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 Posted 05/27/2021  11:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"Instead of buying silver, you should be spending your money on our services!"

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 Posted 05/27/2021  12:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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"Instead of buying silver, you should be spending your money on our services!"

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It's always about making money it seems.
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 Posted 05/27/2021  1:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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That's an extremely low price. I dunno who you bought that from, but you stole that at that price.


@Grape, I wish I had a secret, but it was just a regular ebay purchase.


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 Posted 05/29/2021  2:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As a silver stacker myself, while not as ambitious as other members, I believe it's safe to say that the majority of silver stackers collect silver, for the silver. A raw silver coin that is MS65, would be worth as much as a PCGS MS65 silver coin according to that logic. Having it verified by PCGS, or buying a PCGS, or really any other slabbed coin, would simply be cost ineffective. Those coins presented gained value because of the toning.

As said by the others, I also respectfully disagree with the claim made by the OP. This seems like a ruse to spend more money on unnecessary services.
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 Posted 05/31/2021  3:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrPink2018 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
whether I'm buying bullion or coins, I buy them for the reasons that I determine, not because someone tells me to.
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 Posted 06/20/2021  12:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As with any other coin (bullion or otherwise),
the potential value of the coin after grading has to justify the grading and return shipping fees.
Most collectors seem to set that potential value in the $100-$200 range.

Doesn't matter if a bullion coin may be MS-69 or -70, if the potential value when graded is less than (say) $150.

If the potential value graded is not high enough, then
don't bother the get the coin graded. Value-wise, you are wasting your money.

If you can grade accurately and confidently enough for yourself, then do so and save the fees.
For American coins, we all have Photograde as a resource, to help our efforts.
Slabbing works best when you are buying or selling on eBay, where you can't inspect for yourself before buying. Also, may facilitate a sale for the right price at public auction, such as Heritage.

Such are the reasons why I tend to resist PCGS marketing hype.
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 Posted 07/14/2021  9:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add everything to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I purchased 4 MS69 2012 RP ASE slabbed back in the day from dealers when they were dumping them for $75 each, recently sold them on the bay for $150 each. I got rid of all my slabbed moderns, they take up to much room.
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 Posted 07/14/2021  11:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They way I see it, those who collect slabbed (silver or gold) modern coins are not really silver stackers.
They are a class of collector unto themselves.
Nothing wrong with that.

To my way of thinking, a silver stacker is an accumulator of bullion silver, not necessarily interested in pristine slabbed coins. I have stacked a few ounces of platinum in this way.
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 Posted 07/29/2021  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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They way I see it, those who collect slabbed (silver or gold) modern coins are not really silver stackers.
They are a class of collector unto themselves.
Nothing wrong with that.

I agree. They are not stacking silver. They are buying nice coins.
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 Posted 07/30/2021  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vonigohcr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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To my way of thinking, a silver stacker is an accumulator of bullion silver



There are many types of collections... slabs, raw circulation coins, NCLT, Royal Doulton figurines, rare guitars etc... Rarely do the rules and measures from one collection transfer to another. Just because the root "collectible" is a coin does not equate bullion, NCLT, raw circulating and slabbed coins. Each are valid things to collect if that is what moves you... but I would hesitate to use slabbed coins... even slabbed ASEs... as a bullion stacking vehicle.
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IMHO a better alternative to slabbed modern silver coins is to research and purchase classic silver (or gold) Key Date coins from a multitude of series. This way one can take advantage of long-running numismatic value + the value of the precious metal. You are doubling your chances at maintaining or gaining value in addition to Keys having a documented performance history AND constant demand should you wish to sell. Yes, these will have a more expensive entry point when purchasing and you will have a much smaller "stack" choosing quality OVER quantity. I sold all my conventionally-stacked silver in Feb '21 when I'd had enough of increasing premiums and every Tom,Dick and Harry starting to flock to silver...that was MY exit from stacking. Proceeds from the sale were channeled into carefully-chosen gold and silver Key Dates for my growing collections.
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