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 Posted 04/10/2021  03:23 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Stephen-P to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
As we all know, the coins in these sets are lined with thin cardboard sheets for protection. On the side of cardboard facing the coins, you can usually see some indentation (outline of the coins) where the sheets have been pressing against the coins for years.

On this first set, I noticed that the indented side of cardboard was facing away from the coins when I pulled it out, like it had been opened before and the cardboard was put back in facing the opposite way. The side facing the coins had no indentation. I thought that was very strange.

The seal didn't look like it was tampered with at all, so I was wondering if *SEALED UNOPENED* mint sets can never be trusted to purchase from anyone other than the US mint.
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 Posted 04/10/2021  04:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From Google...
The United States Mint only sealed envelopes when they only shipped one proof set. That envelope would have an address label produced by the mint on the front of the package. Other than the one proof set shipments the mint NEVER SEALED ENVELOPES! All the proof and mint sets that are offered as mint sealed have been sealed outside the mint.
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 Posted 04/10/2021  04:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Stephen-P to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you John! That makes sense...
So according to this, any mint set being offered as "Sealed by the mint" without a postage marking is a false claim. Is that correct?
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 Posted 04/10/2021  06:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would guess so. It has been controversial for years.
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 Posted 04/10/2021  07:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Stephen-P to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is that so... Glad to be part of the controversy:p
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 Posted 04/10/2021  08:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nfine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sealed mint or proof set, original bank wrapped roll, found in an old vault, unsearched, inherited from grandpa, etc.

All claims that are possible but sadly, they usually aren't.

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 Posted 04/10/2021  09:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ballyhoo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Time to Sherlock Holmes this since I have a few. Will post when/if I find anything concrete.
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 Posted 04/10/2021  10:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cladking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These sets often seal themselves and the seller actually believes they were sealed by the mint.

The cardboard was not inserted uniformly in every set. They'd have long runs with them the same but there was variation.

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 Posted 04/10/2021  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rothery to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting information - good to know.
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 Posted 04/11/2021  11:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PlumCrazy814 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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From Google...
The United States Mint only sealed envelopes when they only shipped one proof set. That envelope would have an address label produced by the mint on the front of the package. Other than the one proof set shipments the mint NEVER SEALED ENVELOPES! All the proof and mint sets that are offered as mint sealed have been sealed outside the mint.
Proof and Mint Sets Not sealed by the Mint


...and if you do not believe Google, believe first hand experience.

I was young at the time but my Father did order mint and proof sets (the years they were available) in multiple quantities from 1965 until he died in the late 1980's. I thought if was odd when I was young that they did not seal the envelopes but I can say not one of them he received came sealed from the mint. He never ordered a quantity of one so I can't confirm that single orders were sealed but it does make sense.
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 Posted 04/12/2021  10:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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He never ordered a quantity of one so I can't confirm that single orders were sealed but it does make sense.

In my old phone (sorry it's gone and so are the pictures) I did have image of individual sets that had been orders and snt directly to the collect by sealing them, addressing the outside of the envelope, and affixing postage.
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 Posted 04/12/2021  9:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The really proof set from 1968 if I am not wrong ( I will go to see the database) was delivered in hard capsulated sets with blue like box. The envelopes was not proof even they are S. We can say PL maybe. I have 'it two boxes with 20 envelopes like this in original post package, some was glued some no. In the box those envelopes are very tide. Could glue, time of environment effect, temperatures changed, storage etc.

so in fact those are normal circulation S strikes.
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 Posted 04/18/2021  8:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just watched Rick Tomaskas' coin show and he was showing a sealed box of 100 1958 proof sets he bought a while ago. He dips into that box and opens a set or two every now and then. They come out of the box sealed and he opens them with a pair of scissors. So did the mint seal them or what
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 Posted 04/19/2021  10:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No the mint did not seal them. But if they weren't stored in an environmentally controlled area, and the humidity gets too high, they can "self seal".
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 Posted 04/19/2021  11:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All 100 of them
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